Trust Board Vacancies

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

Originally Posted by Jaded

While I tend to agree with some of the comments you’re making regarding Moss, am I right in thinking you’re referring here to Colin Poole, who went bankrupt a few years ago owing £22 million?

No, I think Poole was when the WST were looking to buy. The one I'm thinking of was southern based.

[pjwales]

[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2249766]No, I think Poole was when the WST were looking to buy. The one I'm thinking of was southern based.
Swampy and we marched through Woking as he had offices there.

[blackbrookred]

Originally Posted by GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo

No, I think Poole was when the WST were looking to buy. The one I'm thinking of was southern based.

Cleeve?

[Alan Attack]

Originally Posted by GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo

The WST preferred local only and chased off anyone else. Fans camped outside a perspective buyers home until he pulled out because he want local.

When I say trust warned on Moss, it's in relation to splitting assets, by some within the WST hence me saying they kept driving in a wedge between both sides complicating things further.

Of course they backed them, they invited them to make a bid, backed their ownership bid and splitting of assets, don't try to rewrite history.

You don't believe they couldn't have done a leveraged buyout? It was the WST who dreamt up what became Wrexham Village, throw in the income generated from the membership plus flats and it seems feasible to me.

I don't make out anything either, but you're a fan of using such tactics when things get uncomfortable.

Also ask yourself why Dickens left around 18 months after the takeover like he promised his consortium would, expect Moss never did not put the shares up for sale. Tells you all you need to know about Moss and if I remember correctly that was before the assets were split, yet it was still backed.

Firstly, things are not uncomfortable for me. I am entirely happy with the ownership of my football club. You’re not and that’s your problem.

The Trust were never in a position to buy the club when it had land. When it was just a football club leveraged in debt could the trust take over.

If what you say about the trust supporting the Wrexham village model ownership, this could have only have been for the benefit of the football club. We can all talk in hindsight but in my opinion, once Wrexham village was created, it’s significantly diminished Wrexham football club.

Perhaps something we can seemingly agree on is the type of person Geoff Moss is/was whilst at Wrexham football club. My principal memories of his tenure were:

a) loans against assets (land);
b) trying to get hold of the Trust’s £300k; and
c) not selling shares to the Trust.

[eosceiriog]

Originally Posted by eosceiriog

There is no better advert for radical change. Leaving the club in the National League has not saved it.

It is no use looking backwards at this through the rear end. The debate really needs a forward looking approach. The past is relevant but only to the history books. What matters is where we go to from here. Currently the situation is rudderless.

That is unlikely to change in the near future.

Increasingly many and perhaps most fans are aware the current WST stranglehold is "for ever"and hence the apparent increase in apathy.

For ever = no change. Actually things will change, drifting like a cork in the sea. Far better to embrace it proactively. Actually the high risk strategy is no change at all ever.

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

Originally Posted by Alan Attack

Firstly, things are not uncomfortable for me. I am entirely happy with the ownership of my football club. You’re not and that’s your problem.

The Trust were never in a position to buy the club when it had land. When it was just a football club leveraged in debt could the trust take over.

If what you say about the trust supporting the Wrexham village model ownership, this could have only have been for the benefit of the football club. We can all talk in hindsight but in my opinion, once Wrexham village was created, it’s significantly diminished Wrexham football club.

Perhaps something we can seemingly agree on is the type of person Geoff Moss is/was whilst at Wrexham football club. My principal memories of his tenure were:

a) loans against assets (land);
b) trying to get hold of the Trust’s £300k; and
c) not selling shares to the Trust.

They backed it while knowing what a crook Moss was, the WST meeting about the proposal was little more than two groups of people crowing at each other pretending to be hard. While getting distracted from the real issue and finding a way forward.

So the trust couldn't have done a leveraged buyout like the Glazers famously did? I think they could've.

Nothing but blind faith in those running things back then and some currently still are, little wonder were in the mess we are now.

A rod made for our own backs being far too militant for fear of redevelopers, yet jumped into bed with one anyway.

[GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo]

Originally Posted by blackbrookred

Cleeve?

One of them tried to buy Plymouth, Cleeve tried buying from Moss & Roberts.

[crazywelsh]

Originally Posted by davewilli

I think many have forgotten; the club in administration, massively in debt, haemeraging money hand over fist and losing its assets. The Trust may have taken a bit of time to pay off the debts, stabilise then turn things round financially but the last 2 seasons despite 2 managers upping sticks mid season progress has been made on the pitch.

Now is not the time to lose our bottle and give up on the Trust, or bail out as some are threatening, now is the time to see things through and fair play overall attendances have improved on the back of the team's winning form. We have been desperate for a shot at the play offs for the last 5 years and now we have that chance, we should embrace it.

We won’t win in the playoffs this team isn’t good enough.

[crazywelsh]

Originally Posted by GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo

No, I think Poole was when the WST were looking to buy. The one I'm thinking of was southern based.

Andy Smith if I remember correctly. Nothing came of it I’m sure he didn’t really have £££


Just found this now
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/4120020.stm