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Old 30th April 2019, 10.24:38   #41-0 (permalink)
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On Sunday though yeah? Still a potential problem if you planned to stay over though I guess.

I'm sure it's normally on a Saturday so at least common sense has been applied a little.
Yes mate defo on the Sunday according to his manager anyway.

I'll still go if we reach the PO final just means I'll have to drive there and back in a day. Not ideal but I might have done that anyway.
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1. I was joking there Al, I really don't want to argue contrary to what people may think.

2. Tried that with the bubble and other things such as the catering, food and prices being charged. Got absolutely nowhere.
I was in dialogue with the board for months. Got fobbed off, got politicians non answers, tried and tried to get them to answer some basic questions but in the end they sent me a load of email addresses to contact (the final fob off), contacted them all, didn't get one reply. Gave up after that because I felt I'd just completely wasted my time.
Probably still got the email chains somewhere.

A totally demoralising experience that left me thinking why bother. Its why I get annoyed sometimes when people point the finger saying 'do something about it then' not having a clue that I actually have tried previously and got nowhere. Just some straight answers would have helped but even that's too much to ask.
They really aren't transparent in my experience, as when you ask some tough questions the shutters come down.

Now I have far more important things to concern my time with like my children and I simply don't have the time or energy anymore. RP is great for me though, because I can still vent if I feel the need.

Anyway I'm ruining the thread so I'll shut up now.
Itís seemingly a catch 22 position for you and others. To influence change you need to get behind the ďiron curtainĒ but itís having that time and I more than appreciate that itís difficult with young kids
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On the face of it we have received a reasonable explanation for this. The problem is there was also a reasonable explanation for the Inclusion Football Club leaving WFC. And when the women’s team pulled out of the Premier League a few years ago. And why we can’t possibly invest more in our youth system or allow those within it a proper pathway to the first team. And why we can’t give the DSA the second platform the way they want it. And once you see enough seemingly reasonable explanations for stuff like that you can only wonder why nobody is looking beyond the end of the first team nose to stop all this stuff happening.
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Old 30th April 2019, 12.25:11   #44-0 (permalink)
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On the face of it we have received a reasonable explanation for this. The problem is there was also a reasonable explanation for the Inclusion Football Club leaving WFC. And when the womenís team pulled out of the Premier League a few years ago. And why we canít possibly invest more in our youth system or allow those within it a proper pathway to the first team. And why we canít give the DSA the second platform the way they want it. And once you see enough seemingly reasonable explanations for stuff like that you can only wonder why nobody is looking beyond the end of the first team nose to stop all this stuff happening.
Unfortunately there seems to have been little planning going on beyond getting into the league. Don't get me wrong, that is everyone's main desire and will bring lots of extra funding with it, but to ignore other important parts of our development until then seems foolhardy. Especially when it comes to the youth system, who knows what we'll actually be left with if/when we reach the promised land.
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Itís seemingly a catch 22 position for you and others. To influence change you need to get behind the ďiron curtainĒ but itís having that time and I more than appreciate that itís difficult with young kids
And when you look at the voting clique that exists, where only a tiny percentage of fans vote who are all in the same circle i.e. the boards, you could be the second coming riding into town carrying an endless pot of gold whilst sipping wrexham lager from the holy grail and still not have a hope in hells chance.
Unless more fans start voting then not much will change sadly.
Old 30th April 2019, 12.36:05   #46-0 (permalink)
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Sounds as if the Club informed the Wxm District 4 months ago of dates.....

I was corrected on the Spirit of 78 site as I'd complained that the board should prioritise this fixture and not leave it late. My apologies...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/spir...als-t1873.html
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Old 30th April 2019, 12.45:59   #47-0 (permalink)
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Unfortunately there seems to have been little planning going on beyond getting into the league. Don't get me wrong, that is everyone's main desire and will bring lots of extra funding with it, but to ignore other important parts of our development until then seems foolhardy. Especially when it comes to the youth system, who knows what we'll actually be left with if/when we reach the promised land.
And the irony is the focus on getting back into the league is at least partly driven by the fact that so many people insist that there is no ambition to do so.

Who knows what will be left if and when we reach the promised land? I think we do know - scorched earth. There being no Young Player of the Year award this time ought to have woken up more people than it has. Itís not easy of course, especially with a need to make new training ground arrangements, but it is dismissed so easily that you have to wonder who cares?
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And when you look at the voting clique that exists, where only a tiny percentage of fans vote who are all in the same circle i.e. the boards, you could be the second coming riding into town carrying an endless pot of gold whilst sipping wrexham lager from the holy grail and still not have a hope in hells chance.
Unless more fans start voting then not much will change sadly.
The frustration of being on the outside is real but there are things to pick at here. I always vote and have no inside track at board level, and when the acquisition of operational control of the Racecourse came up the numbers voting increased hugely. These things, plus the low numbers who usually vote, can mean that change doesnít require the huge numbers it ought, and that if an issue does hit home enough it can get backing. The most worrying issue around voting is around the second disabled platform; that the board were prepared to issue a guiding statement against it, and that having seen the result be the opposite to the one they wanted there has been a desire to move the goalposts on it.
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Old 30th April 2019, 13.43:47   #49-0 (permalink)
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Sounds as if the Club informed the Wxm District 4 months ago of dates.....

I was corrected on the Spirit of 78 site as I'd complained that the board should prioritise this fixture and not leave it late. My apologies...

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/spir...als-t1873.html
Any chance of quoting the post linked to for those of us who havenít been accepted to join the site (and fezbob if heís still banned!)?
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Thereís a fairly full explantation of all this on the Wrexhamafc web site. Including how, apparently, the board wrote to the Youth League in January to explain the situation.
Not looking to defend their actions but it has been known in local football areas for sometime
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