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From what I can gather

Contracted

Pearson
Wright
Lawlor
Oswell
Young
Dibble
Fondop

Offer deals to

Jennings
Lainton (probably leave)
Carrington
Kennedy/Smith (one or the other )

First year pros

Sargent
Thorn
Beaumont

This would leave us needing

1 x right back
2x centre mid
2 x wingers
2 x forwards (who score goals ) haha


Add to that a new assistant manager and first team coach replacing Flynn and Darlington

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Agree with all that.

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Kennedy is a must to resign, Manny has been injured for a large portion of this season and hasn't been missed. Tharme would also be good cover so should offer him a deal.

Roberts and Jennings can both go

midfield and forward line needs an overhaul. i would be happy as Oswell leading the line with a proper pre-season as long as he has support on the wings

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Akil Wright needs to go apart from that I agree with the OP list. We'll probably indulge Rutherford for another season though.

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Yes, agree with Flintshire Fan. Not confident that the club will put that into practice. They will chicken out and offer deals to those who are just not the standard required. “We don’t need radical Surgery, just a sticking plaster”. Hopefully, we have more ambition than that.

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2254073]From what I can gather

Contracted

Pearson
Wright
Lawlor
Oswell
Young
Dibble
Fondop

Offer deals to

Jennings
Lainton (probably leave)
Carrington
Kennedy/Smith (one or the other )

First year pros

Sargent
Thorn
Beaumont

This would leave us needing

1 x right back
2x centre mid
2 x wingers
2 x forwards (who score goals ) haha


Add to that a new assistant manager and first team coach replacing Flynn and Darlington[/QUOTE]


Bang on

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2254073]From what I can gather

Contracted

Pearson
Wright
Lawlor
Oswell
Young
Dibble
Fondop

Offer deals to

Jennings
Lainton (probably leave)
Carrington
Kennedy/Smith (one or the other )

First year pros

Sargent
Thorn
Beaumont

This would leave us needing

1 x right back
2x centre mid
2 x wingers
2 x forwards (who score goals ) haha


Add to that a new assistant manager and first team coach replacing Flynn and Darlington[/QUOTE]

Pearson wont be here next season, neither will Fondop.

Akil Wright needs shifting, I've never seen a game pass someone by so often, terrible player.

Oswell is sub cover at best, simply not up to the standard we require but I assume you've placed him in the position with your requirement for two new forwards.

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I would keep Summerfield also. With some pace and movement ahead of him he would be really effective at finding players in good areas.

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keep pearson and lainton the rest can go

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[QUOTE=Haruki;2254111]I would keep Summerfield also. With some pace and movement ahead of him he would be really effective at finding players in good areas.[/QUOTE]

Didn't his calf go again last night? Might be best to let him go as he must have a serious issue with it. He has struggled with it all season

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GK - Lainton & Dibble

LB - Jennings
CB - Pearson
CB - Lawlor, Kennedy
RB - New Signing & Carrington

LM - New Signing
CM - Summerfield, Young & Wright
CM - New Signing
RM - New Signing

LS - Jason Oswell & New Signing
RS - New Signing

Youth - Sargent & Tharrme

Release
Roberts
Rutherford
Deverdics
Holroyd
Beavon
Fondop
Grant
McGlashan
L. Smith
E. Smith
Agustien
Spyrou

I'd like to see us sign the following;

Matthew Warburton (Stockport) - Goalscorer
Ben Tollitt (Tranmere) - Goalscorer
Daniel Udoh (Telford) - Goalscorer
Rhys Murphy (Chelmsford) - Goalscorer
Joe Leesley (Harrogate) - Playmaker
Mark Yeates (Eastleigh) - Playmaker
Jonny Smith (Tranmere) - Playmaker
Zain Francis Angol (Fylde) - Wingback

There is probably more, but I cant think of them at the moment!

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Can we do better than James Jennings?

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2254142]Can we do better than James Jennings?[/QUOTE]

Jennings is the least of our problems.

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2254142]Can we do better than James Jennings?[/QUOTE]

I don't think so

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Thought their No3 Green (pace and strength) and No9 McCallum - (won absoutely everything) looked excellent last night - we could do a lot worse - can't see them going up

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2254142]Can we do better than James Jennings?[/QUOTE]

No.

However we might get cheaper without a large drop in quality in order to pay for star attackers
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Along with the players who are already under contract I would like to keep Lainton, Jennings, Summerfield and I think that is it personally. I admire the work rate of Rutherford but at the end of the day after 40 or apps his actual production is not at the level it needs to be.

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Putting my tin hat on - I don't really get the downer on Rutherford - after he came on last night we were much much better- seemed to be the only player prepared to run at them.

His production in terms of assists over the course of the season is not great, but much of the blame for that must lie at the feet of the strikers, the quality of which has been shocking and our overly defensive set up.

Personally I would keep him, but I know I'm in a minority

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[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2254142]Can we do better than James Jennings?[/QUOTE]

this is the issue

but his aimless diagonal punts into Beavon or a channel no one was running last night were frustrating to say the least

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[QUOTE=Iesty;2254092]Kennedy is a must to resign, Manny has been injured for a large portion of this season and hasn't been missed. Tharme would also be good cover so should offer him a deal.

Roberts and Jennings can both go

midfield and forward line needs an overhaul. i would be happy as Oswell leading the line with a proper pre-season as long as he has support on the wings[/QUOTE]

Jennings ? The best crosser of a ball we have !!! very decent at this level .

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[QUOTE=stanvax;2254168]Putting my tin hat on - I don't really get the downer on Rutherford - after he came on last night we were much much better- seemed to be the only player prepared to run at them.

His production in terms of assists over the course of the season is not great, but much of the blame for that must lie at the feet of the strikers, the quality of which has been shocking and our overly defensive set up.

Personally I would keep him, but I know I'm in a minority[/QUOTE]

I thought he did ok last night too and generally has been ok all season but the problem is he is all effort no quality and that just wint cut it anymore. Plus age isnt his friend

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[QUOTE=redavid;2254171]Jennings ? The best crosser of a ball we have !!! very decent at this level .[/QUOTE]

Sadly you may be right. Doesn't mean he should be kept. We need better.
Grant actually put better crosses in last night than Jennings.

Biggest concern for me was when Barrow brought in additional forwards on loan and basically stated that he wasn't looking for midfielders.

The way we play, I realise that midfield is pretty much redundant but Summerfield isn't up to the job or Akil Wright.
A decent leader could change the team at a stroke by bossing the midfield and getting some movement through the side.
We lack creativity and pace in vital areas, goalscorers have little chance in our side due to the lethargic build up which gives opposition defences time to reorganise. Even Eastleighs lumbering lump of a CH looked comfortable as he dealt fairly easily with long punts.
Full backs. We need players who can use both feet and not just for standing on.
I really hope that Bryan Hughes puts his own stamp on acquisitions and is fully backed by the club. We don't play chess (apart from RP fans) and systems can be countered. Running isn't the only answer. Lets have some Skill, creativity and Goals next season.

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Need to be ruthless :

Lainton - New 2yr
Dibble - contracted

New RB
Carrington - New 1yr

Pearson- contracted
Lawlor- contracted
Kennedy - New 2 yr
Smith- New 1yr
Tharme - New 1yr

Jennings - New 1yr

Young - contracted
New CM
New CM
New CM
Wright - transfer list
Deverdics- release
Grant- release
Rutherford- release
Summerfield- release
Augustien - give trial over the summer

Holroyd- release
Beavon- send back
Fondop- transfer list
Oswell- contracted
Mcglashan- send back
Stockton- send back
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[QUOTE=stanvax;2254168]Putting my tin hat on - I don't really get the downer on Rutherford - after he came on last night we were much much better- seemed to be the only player prepared to run at them.

His production in terms of assists over the course of the season is not great, but much of the blame for that must lie at the feet of the strikers, the quality of which has been shocking and our overly defensive set up.

Personally I would keep him, but I know I'm in a minority[/QUOTE]

I'm with you on this one, think his title of 'scapegoat' means everything positive he does is overlooked, wrongly slandered by the loud ones.

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[QUOTE=WREX01;2254186]Need to be ruthless :

Lainton - New 2yr
Dibble - contracted

New RB
Carrington - New 1yr

Pearson- contracted
Lawlor- contracted
Kennedy - New 2 yr
Smith- New 1yr
Tharme - New 1yr

Jennings - New 1yr

Young - contracted
New CM
New CM
New CM
Wright - transfer list
Deverdics- release
Grant- release
Rutherford- release
Summerfield- release
Augustien - give trial over the summer

Holroyd- release
Beavon- send back
Fondop- transfer list
Oswell- contracted
Mcglashan- send back
Stockton- send back
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Not sure our budget should be used to fund 5 Centre Backs

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[QUOTE=Haruki;2254191]Not sure our budget should be used to fund 5 Centre Backs[/QUOTE]

Indeed, also don't see how that is being ruthless.

Being ruthless would be keeping Pearson and Lawlor, with Tharme for cover. If injuries start building bring cover loans in.

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Keep:
Lainton
Dibble(I imagine he is cheap so ideal sub)
Pearson (sadly see him leaving)
Lawlor
Kennedy
Carra (Squad filler)
Young
Akil (Bench player)
Rutherford (Squad filler, can be affective off bench. Looked better when he came on last night)

Everyone else can go, Jennings must be on a decent wedge here and I really do think we can get better. A strong and pact full backs is what we need. That'll help the supply in to the strikers.

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[QUOTE=Gwersyllt-Robin;2254188]I'm with you on this one, think his title of 'scapegoat' means everything positive he does is overlooked, wrongly slandered by the loud ones.[/QUOTE]

If you can point me in the direction of one post that blames Rutherford for a defeat or for last night then you'll have a point. He supposed to assist and scores goals and does neither anywhere near often enough.

Its simply the fact he isn't good enough, but if you can't see that by now you probably never will.

What I will say is that he always gives his all regardless and at least he cares and tries his best, sadly though that isn't enough.

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[QUOTE=Iesty;2254170]this is the issue

but his aimless diagonal punts into Beavon or a channel no one was running last night were frustrating to say the least[/QUOTE]

Well don't you think they should make themselves available ? aimless punts ?
what is the Lad supposed to do if he passes back because no one is making runs hes wrong again , I think you are blaming the wrong player.

[QUOTE=Haruki;2254191]Not sure our budget should be used to fund 5 Centre Backs[/QUOTE]

I kind of agree , the player I’d sacrifice is Manny but it seems that his deal was sorted pre injury.
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[QUOTE=LlayDragon;2254196]Indeed, also don't see how that is being ruthless.

Being ruthless would be keeping Pearson and Lawlor, with Tharme for cover. If injuries start building bring cover loans in.[/QUOTE]

Well it’s a lot more ruthless than I expect Yozzer to be. I expect him to keep Roberts, Rutherford, Wright, Holroyd
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[QUOTE=WREX01;2254206]Well it’s a lot more ruthless than I expect Yozzer to be. I expect him to keep Roberts, Rutherford, Wright, Holroyd
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I do too, which equals another bust season.

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[QUOTE=WREX01;2254206]Well it’s a lot more ruthless than I expect Yozzer to be. I expect him to keep Roberts, Rutherford, Wright, Holroyd
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He’ll keep Wright but no chance will he keep Roberts, Rutherford and Holroyd they’ve consistently been poor all season.

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[QUOTE=Quay Red;2254182]Sadly you may be right. Doesn't mean he should be kept. We need better.
Grant actually put better crosses in last night than Jennings.

Biggest concern for me was when Barrow brought in additional forwards on loan and basically stated that he wasn't looking for midfielders.

The way we play, I realise that midfield is pretty much redundant but Summerfield isn't up to the job or Akil Wright.
A decent leader could change the team at a stroke by bossing the midfield and getting some movement through the side.
We lack creativity and pace in vital areas, goalscorers have little chance in our side due to the lethargic build up which gives opposition defences time to reorganise. Even Eastleighs lumbering lump of a CH looked comfortable as he dealt fairly easily with long punts.
Full backs. We need players who can use both feet and not just for standing on.
I really hope that Bryan Hughes puts his own stamp on acquisitions and is fully backed by the club. We don't play chess (apart from RP fans) and systems can be countered. Running isn't the only answer. Lets have some Skill, creativity and Goals next season.[/QUOTE]

A lot of good points , But , I feel as though the defence is good enough , take out Roberts , so with that in mind spending more on midfield and forwards would improve us immensely ,half the time the defenders are doing more defending because in front of them those players cant keep the ball, You defend from the front , As for Summerfield he looked really good when he first came in , then he had a shaky spell then got injured, and hasn't really looked the same .

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[QUOTE=OneLoveWrexham;2254209]He’ll keep Wright but no chance will he keep Roberts, Rutherford and Holroyd they’ve consistently been poor all season.[/QUOTE]

Holroyed was MOM last night !!! :drool5: LOL

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2254073]From what I can gather

Contracted

Pearson
Wright
Lawlor
Oswell
Young
Dibble
Fondop

Offer deals to

Jennings
Lainton (probably leave)
Carrington
Kennedy/Smith (one or the other )

First year pros

Sargent
Thorn
Beaumont

This would leave us needing

1 x right back
2x centre mid
2 x wingers
2 x forwards (who score goals ) haha


Add to that a new assistant manager and first team coach replacing Flynn and Darlington[/QUOTE]

Pretty much agree with all that. I'd be keeping Kennedy over Smith. Summerfield I'd consider offering another year to subject to fitness.

We need a right back who offers an attacking dimension. A replacement for Walker and ideally a more creative midfield outlet too. The attacker need a complete overhaul. I think Oswell might be able to offer something. Fondop will probably go but if he doesn't we need to start utilising his strengths. Tollitt would be a good starting point too, players who are quick and direct.

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[QUOTE=OneLoveWrexham;2254209]He’ll keep Wright but no chance will he keep Roberts, Rutherford and Holroyd they’ve consistently been poor all season.[/QUOTE]

Agree but Hughes continued to play them nearly every match !

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[QUOTE=redrog;2254113]keep pearson and lainton the rest can go[/QUOTE]

this

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Jennings and Carrington need to be released. The reason we are still in this division is because we have alot of average conference players, of which those two are bang average.

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Not every player, can be the complete player. After all they in the National League. Most players have a compelling attribute, heading or speed etc. If a player ain’t got a special attribute, then what are they doing on our books?