Will you renew your season ticket or wst membership?

[SuperTed]

Yes to both, it's like a bad habit I just can't kick.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by techender

Despite having real reservations, as I am truly sick and tired of this league and our continual failures within it, I probably will renew, but maybe leave it a little later this year to see how the team is shaping up.

As far as the WST is concerned, I have been paying a standing order each month but this is the one I am seriously thinking of stopping.

I'm afraid my belief in fan ownership has been stretched beyond its limit this season, and the way in which the post-Ricketts fiasco was managed summed up why the club will go nowhere under its current leadership and ownership model.

Fully understand the frustration and anger in some respects but "Careful what you wish for"
All ownership models have their limitations. It's down to money.
We have a pretty good budget, Success is down to how it's spent, so we have to rely on the manager to do his job in the Summer.
Personally think we're a long way off with the squad we've got and unless we can improve on our full backs, midfield and forwards we will be looking at another difficult year ahead. Minimum of 6 players required.
Alternative is to keep the basis of this squad and start, urgently to bring the youngsters into the side whilst looking at the National league North etc for up and coming talent in specific positions.
I do wonder if fans would accept the alternative as a policy to build a side rather than try to buy one.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

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Fully understand the frustration and anger in some respects but "Careful what you wish for"
All ownership models have their limitations. It's down to money.
We have a pretty good budget, Success is down to how it's spent, so we have to rely on the manager to do his job in the Summer.
Personally think we're a long way off with the squad we've got and unless we can improve on our full backs, midfield and forwards we will be looking at another difficult year ahead. Minimum of 6 players required.
Alternative is to keep the basis of this squad and start, urgently to bring the youngsters into the side whilst looking at the National league North etc for up and coming talent in specific positions.
I do wonder if fans would accept the alternative as a policy to build a side rather than try to buy one.

When have we ever been told any policy?
We haven't and I don't think there is one. Unless you class the Scattergun approach as policy. Wasting time with loan signings we never see play has gone on for season after season and its just accepted as if its the norm.

[techender]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

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Fully understand the frustration and anger in some respects but "Careful what you wish for"
All ownership models have their limitations. It's down to money.
We have a pretty good budget, Success is down to how it's spent, so we have to rely on the manager to do his job in the Summer.
Personally think we're a long way off with the squad we've got and unless we can improve on our full backs, midfield and forwards we will be looking at another difficult year ahead. Minimum of 6 players required.
Alternative is to keep the basis of this squad and start, urgently to bring the youngsters into the side whilst looking at the National league North etc for up and coming talent in specific positions.
I do wonder if fans would accept the alternative as a policy to build a side rather than try to buy one.

We had a "pretty good budget" last year...….. and the marque signing made with such a fanfare on twitter.....was Fondop.
We then made numerous loan signings as the season went by, some of which we hardly saw ever wear the shirt.

Its a fine idea to build a side from youth, but that's a risky strategy for us with a reserve team that doesn't even play competitive games. I hate to say this about my team, but I don't recognise any real strategy or policy in the way in which we are going about things, and that's at player and managerial level

[Phils-an-alki]

We couldn't build a side from our youth as its a shambles.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by Phils-an-alki

When have we ever been told any policy?
We haven't and I don't think there is one. Unless you class the Scattergun approach as policy. Wasting time with loan signings we never see play has gone on for season after season and its just accepted as if its the norm.

Never said we had a Policy.
If you read the post, I wondered if fans would accept such a policy.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Never said we had a Policy.
If you read the post, I wondered if fans would accept such a policy.

No I know but that's my point no one knows what the policy is, if any. We can't accept a policy that's a secret from us.

[Ooh aah Paskin]

Originally Posted by Loughboroughred

If you can't support the reds through the downs, you shouldn't support them through the ups!

I'll be getting both this year

Come on you reds!

So, the fact I don't want to buy a season ticket or join the WST means I don't support Wrexham then?

Just because I choose to use the money for a season ticket elsewhere shouldn't lessen the support I have for the club. I just have other priorities.
Its just a football club. I love it and want it to be successful, but not at the cost of more important things.

I don't get the 'if you don't do this, or do that, you can't call yourself a true fan' malarkey.

[pagl]

Originally Posted by Ooh aah Paskin

So, the fact I don't want to buy a season ticket or join the WST means I don't support Wrexham then?

Just because I choose to use the money for a season ticket elsewhere shouldn't lessen the support I have for the club. I just have other priorities.
Its just a football club. I love it and want it to be successful, but not at the cost of more important things.

I don't get the 'if you don't do this, or do that, you can't call yourself a true fan' malarkey.

Quite right. everyone has different personal and financial circumstances which governs their spending. Anyone that takes an interest and follows the team even just on here is a fan in my eyes.

I would like to think that we could convert non-members to members or as we should really see it non-owners to owners. Its a cost of £1 a month and whilst even another 1,000 owners wont make big changes to the budget for me its about growing the base and also making it inclusive.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by pagl

Quite right. everyone has different personal and financial circumstances which governs their spending. Anyone that takes an interest and follows the team even just on here is a fan in my eyes.

I would like to think that we could convert non-members to members or as we should really see it non-owners to owners. Its a cost of £1 a month and whilst even another 1,000 owners wont make big changes to the budget for me its about growing the base and also making it inclusive.

Agree with this.
That was one reason why the membership changed from being WST members to Football club members. To try and attract those that had more affinity to the club than the trust.