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Alan Attack · 15th May 2019, 09.43:01

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Originally Posted by The Only Way Is Up

Has a planning application been submitted? If not, it seems unlikely that anything can be done there for at least the next 6/12 weeks.

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It would need to go through a statutory pre-application consultation so we'll all know about it weeks/months before the application goes in.

However, have consultants been appointed, plans drawn etc?

It would be a huge shame if the club are no further down the line than they were in Jan/Feb following Harris’ and the Council’s positive words.

Quay Red · 15th May 2019, 10.50:45

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Originally Posted by Alan Attack

It would need to go through a statutory pre-application consultation so we'll all know about it weeks/months before the application goes in.

However, have consultants been appointed, plans drawn etc?

It would be a huge shame if the club are no further down the line than they were in Jan/Feb following Harris’ and the Council’s positive words.

Pre planning application is not a Statutory requirement.
It's a facility that can be used to gauge an opinion from a planning officer but is not a guarantee of success or failure when a full application is submitted. Sketch proposals would be submitted with photos of the site etc.
The benefit to an applicant is to get an opinion on a proposal without having to have the expense of full plans and proposals being drawn up which could be rejected. Responses from planners are unfortunately slow.
On a scheme like The Groves, it is more than likely that a meeting with a Senior Planner would be arranged to discuss the proposal. Getting the local councillors on board is a real bonus.

Alan Attack · 15th May 2019, 11.15:47

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Originally Posted by Quay Red

Pre planning application is not a Statutory requirement.
It's a facility that can be used to gauge an opinion from a planning officer but is not a guarantee of success or failure when a full application is submitted. Sketch proposals would be submitted with photos of the site etc.
The benefit to an applicant is to get an opinion on a proposal without having to have the expense of full plans and proposals being drawn up which could be rejected. Responses from planners are unfortunately slow.
On a scheme like The Groves, it is more than likely that a meeting with a Senior Planner would be arranged to discuss the proposal. Getting the local councillors on board is a real bonus.

Pre-app Consultation (PAC) is relatively new legislation in Wales (2016) and not to be confused with pre-app advice (or pre planning application) which you’ve helpfully outlined.

In its simplest form, any form of major development (usually 1 ha.+, 10 dwellings, 1000m2) must go through local consultation for a minimum of 28 days before an application is submitted. You effectively prepare your application in draft and inform adjoining landowners and interested parties.

As I say, we should all know about the application before it’s submitted

Ruabon Red · 15th May 2019, 12.42:04

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Originally Posted by Quay Red

Pre planning application is not a Statutory requirement.
It's a facility that can be used to gauge an opinion from a planning officer but is not a guarantee of success or failure when a full application is submitted. Sketch proposals would be submitted with photos of the site etc.
The benefit to an applicant is to get an opinion on a proposal without having to have the expense of full plans and proposals being drawn up which could be rejected. Responses from planners are unfortunately slow.
On a scheme like The Groves, it is more than likely that a meeting with a Senior Planner would be arranged to discuss the proposal. Getting the local councillors on board is a real bonus.

I think Alan's talking about the consultation process rather than a pre-app enquiry QR.

Quay Red · 15th May 2019, 13.05:32

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Originally Posted by Ruabon Red

I think Alan's talking about the consultation process rather than a pre-app enquiry QR.

Understand now what he meant.

138+NotOut · 15th May 2019, 15.10:38

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Originally Posted by dixienormous

Because I was aware we have no legal right to use it.

The big difference here is the fact they'll be using the site to develop youngsters from North Wales, on our old training ground, which was built using the money we recieved for developing our own youngster Brian Hughes.

It was taken away from the oldest club in Wales for reasons already mentioned and we now find ourselves entering our 12th season of hell in non league, training on an old school field.

If they gave the slightest bit of shit about their oldest club and if the board could wake the fook up, there should be a deal on the horizon for us to use it.

Sorry I dont see your logic