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Old 13th June 2019, 21.55:31   #82-0 (permalink)
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The nickname / mascot etc is not just for the kids, it is for the big kids too.

Re-reading the reasoning crystallises my original point “By developing the imagery to incorporate a more Welsh feel, we hope that the Club will become more appealing to the wider community of North Wales.”

Non local bloke comes in as a marketing genius, whack a dragon on it and they will lap it up was the strategy.

Are we now more appealing to North Wales as people up the coast love a dragon, coz all the welshies love that and rugby boyo *pops a leek hat on starts singing 'that really long town name' on demand*
Not the point I’m making; I agreed that if it had never happened you wouldn’t need to make it happen. But to change back needs a strong case and there isn’t one, no more so than changing the badge back to a previous design, or to blue shirts, or hooped shirts permanently. Some would happily move grounds too. All of these things happen for varying reasons, so latching onto this as any kind of crazier move than any of the others just because you remember it changing seems a waste of time. And mascots are more for kids than they are for you and me, surely that’s obvious.
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Old 13th June 2019, 22.39:37   #83-0 (permalink)
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I think the Dragons/Robins issue is looked at from four main issues,
1. Mascot
2. Heritage.
3. Marketing.
4. Tradition.

1. As far as young children are concerned anything that looks like it’s come off CBeebies will be preferable to watching a football match so the choice the Dragon or Robin is not an issue and loyalties soon change.
2. Nicknames evolve from an incident or circumstance and the original reason is usually lost over time as in the case of “The Robins”. “The Dragons” was the idea of some one from out of the area who wasn’t here for 5 minutes.
3. The main catchment area for purchase of Wrexham FC memorabilia is probably 15 miles. The unique Rockin Robin items could only be bought in the club shop, the best place for Dragon items is the gift shops in Llangollen.
Show 100 people in North Wales a picture of a Dragon and ask them what it represents and I bet you could count on one hand the number who say Wrexham FC but show them one of Rockin Robin!!!
Robin may not be unique in Football but it is unique in our target market.
4.The Red Dragon is often seen as a shorthand for all things Welsh, being used by many indigenous public and private institutions (e.g.: The Welsh Assembly Government, Visit Wales, numerous local authorities including Blaenau Gwent, Cardiff, Carmarthenshire, Rhondda Cynon Taf, and sports bodies, including the Sport Wales National Centre, the Football Association of Wales, Newport Gwent Dragons, London Welsh RFC, etc.)
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We’re the Robins after being named after a director called Robinson - one version of the tale at least that took hold. You don’t have to know this but probably ought to if you’re going to argue the toss about meaning.
Thats not true, you are talking about the origin. The meaning comes from the fact that it was OUR nickname regardless of the origin.
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We have a generation of children who are the future of the club who have only ever known us as the Dragons, yet we have middle aged men trying to relive their own youth by hanging on to their past.

I remember Rockin very well, but I now believe that, rather like wearing blue and white stripped shirts, is for the history books. I do believe the WST should have opened up this particular vote to the junior members so they could have their say.
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We have a generation of children who are the future of the club who have only ever known us as the Dragons, yet we have middle aged men trying to relive their own youth by hanging on to their past.

I remember Rockin very well, but I now believe that, rather like wearing blue and white stripped shirts, is for the history books. I do believe the WST should have opened up this particular vote to the junior members so they could have their say.
Agreed. It's madness and totally pointless.
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We have a generation of children who are the future of the club who have only ever known us as the Dragons, yet we have middle aged men trying to relive their own youth by hanging on to their past.

I remember Rockin very well, but I now believe that, rather like wearing blue and white stripped shirts, is for the history books. I do believe the WST should have opened up this particular vote to the junior members so they could have their say.
you are free to vote as you see fit, just as people are free to bring such a motion.
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you are free to vote as you see fit, just as people are free to bring such a motion.
How about a rule that if a motion is defeated it cannot be brought back for x years?
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Of all the issues at the club this is the very least of our worries.
In fact its such a non issue I think its probably someone having a bit of a joke.
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