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Old 6th June 2019, 15.13:04   #141-0 (permalink)
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Chill, it was a bit of fun. I'm hardly likely to win the Euro lottery.
We all know that posting on here is not going to change anything. Its a forum for opinions. Everyone is free to post what they feel, whether its positive, negative, whatever!
As for how they keep getting elected? I have no idea but it might be that because only a few members of the trust actually vote, then its the same people voting every time?
Its been done to death on here. What do people expect on a forum exactly? I'm somewhat surprised at Mr Wonderful over this I must admit.

Although I appreciate some people are not fully aware of the obstacles put in front of people who have tried exactly what he proposes i.e. to change from within.

I'm sure I've read him not being happy with certain aspects of the government and Nato etc. I'm sure he has therefore acted upon this and tried to change them from within, because nothing is going to change by slagging them off on here. I say this without wanting another row on here and with respect.
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Old 6th June 2019, 15.17:14   #142-0 (permalink)
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Of course. However I have a feeling there will only be us 2 voting in favour!
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Chill, it was a bit of fun. I'm hardly likely to win the Euro lottery.
We all know that posting on here is not going to change anything. Its a forum for opinions. Everyone is free to post what they feel, whether its positive, negative, whatever!
As for how they keep getting elected? I have no idea but it might be that because only a few members of the trust actually vote, then its the same people voting every time?
If voting turn out is at 7% & we have say 5,000 electorate (not sure of exact figures) thatís equates to around 400 votes roughly. Which is pitiful & as you say undermines the democratic process & favours those who lobby the strongest.
Obviously the voting process needs revamping before any election is conducted imo.
Off the top of my head, handing out election forms on the gate to card carrying WST members would get a better turnout. Freepost return &/or returned at next game would increase turnout.
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Old 6th June 2019, 15.19:56   #144-0 (permalink)
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Its been done to death on here. What do people expect on a forum exactly? I'm somewhat surprised at Mr Wonderful over this I must admit.

Although I appreciate some people are not fully aware of the obstacles put in front of people who have tried exactly what he proposes i.e. to change from within.

I'm sure I've read him not being happy with certain aspects of the government and Nato etc. I'm sure he has therefore acted upon this and tried to change them from within, because nothing is going to change by slagging them off on here. I say this without wanting another row on here and with respect.
Point taken Phil, & no I donít want you to say it to my face .
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Fair enough, apologies.
But my first point still stands about it being an open forum.
Apology not needed mate & your point is right. Believe it or not we are all so desperate for the same thing.
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Old 6th June 2019, 15.28:29   #146-0 (permalink)
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But yet they are and have been. You would have to be absolutely bonkers to agree to such a one sided NDA and roles reversed there's no way the WST would agree to it.

Plus what you have said about Bryn Law there, hinting that he can't be trusted is totally baseless and I would think about what you are posting here. If you don't think he has the best interests of the club he supports at heart then I have no idea where you have plucked that from.

Good post Phil Bryn can see what's holding the club he loves back like many other fans his intentions are I'm sure goods for the club and it's fans.
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In case you've forgotten them Phil,

Simply answer me these 2 questions,

1. If 30 people come forward next season saying they want to buy the club, each approach costing the club (let's be nice and be Conservative) £3.5k in legal and other costs to follow up, who should pay for this, the membership or the people suggesting they might invest?

2. The pretend investor, knowing at worst they will be penalised £2k, publishes what Shaun Pearson's wages or buyout clause is and he leaves, what do the fans think of that?
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Point taken Phil, & no I donít want you to say it to my face .
Haha - No problem mate.
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If voting turn out is at 7% & we have say 5,000 electorate (not sure of exact figures) thatís equates to around 400 votes roughly. Which is pitiful & as you say undermines the democratic process & favours those who lobby the strongest.
Obviously the voting process needs revamping before any election is conducted imo.
Off the top of my head, handing out election forms on the gate to card carrying WST members would get a better turnout. Freepost return &/or returned at next game would increase turnout.
perhaps they could simply allow an on-line vote ? If ,for example, you had to register your email address with your membership (I believe most have) then they could send a one-time passcode to the email address. Maybe even RP could help ? A password secured vote ?
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In case you've forgotten them Phil,

Simply answer me these 2 questions,

1. If 30 people come forward next season saying they want to buy the club, each approach costing the club (let's be nice and be Conservative) £3.5k in legal and other costs to follow up, who should pay for this, the membership or the people suggesting they might invest?

2. The pretend investor, knowing at worst they will be penalised £2k, publishes what Shaun Pearson's wages or buyout clause is and he leaves, what do the fans think of that?
Unless I'm misreading it the £5k fee to cover WST reamins intact. If that is the case we'd be making £45000 out of scenario 1.

Scenario 2, I agree that the proposed NDA penalty is too low, but perhaps some middle ground could be found here?
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