Football club ownership model

[WrexhamO]

Aren't we able to pay off the 99 year lease in lump sums over the annual rent?

We could pay a million now and be rent free for the rest of the lease term...

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by WrexhamO

Aren't we able to pay off the 99 year lease in lump sums over the annual rent?

We could pay a million now and be rent free for the rest of the lease term...

Think the sum is £1.35 million but yes it's possible.
We still wouldn't own anything and still have to do the repairs and maintenance. Plus the UNI still control what we can do.

[John Neals Dynasty]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Think the sum is £1.35 million but yes it's possible.
We still wouldn't own anything and still have to do the repairs and maintenance. Plus the UNI still control what we can do.

Sounds pointless as football should come first, get back in the league... I remember Darlington having a fantastic ground they couldn't afford, Coventry Glyndwr could do to us what the renting of their ground did to them.
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[Prodigal Dragon]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Whilst fully supporting trust ownership, I envisage a time in the not to distant future, irrespective of success or lack of on the field, that some form of duality, similar to that at other clubs will need to be looked at.
There is an obvious and not unreasonable fear of a repetition of the Hamilton and Moss eras but ownership of the club is with the trust.
We should now start looking long term in trying to purchase the ground or look to relocate, even if this was to be done over 10 or 20 years. This I feel is an area where controlled share issue could be beneficial.

Can we get out of the lease easily, and without too much cost?

[dixienormous]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Whilst fully supporting trust ownership, I envisage a time in the not to distant future, irrespective of success or lack of on the field, that some form of duality, similar to that at other clubs will need to be looked at.
There is an obvious and not unreasonable fear of a repetition of the Hamilton and Moss eras but ownership of the club is with the trust.
We should now start looking long term in trying to purchase the ground or look to relocate, even if this was to be done over 10 or 20 years. This I feel is an area where controlled share issue could be beneficial.

Now is the bloody time and if we struggle this season it will force their hands.

[pagl]

Originally Posted by dixienormous

Now is the bloody time and if we struggle this season it will force their hands.

Its not about forcing anyones hand. It has to be inclusive.
The point is we have to start to look at strategic stuff on top of operational.

[dixienormous]

Originally Posted by pagl

Its not about forcing anyones hand. It has to be inclusive.
The point is we have to start to look at strategic stuff on top of operational.

I get the impression most want this apart from a close circle of people, but the tide is turning, I hope.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by dixienormous

I get the impression most want this apart from a close circle of people, but the tide is turning, I hope.

Sorry to disappoint but your impression appears to be based on a small vociferous minority of fans, very few who seem to be trust members.
Most of the membership appear happy with the way things are run, particularly behind the scenes.
The challenge is to create a product that is successful and hopefully entertaining to enable us to grow the fan base and keep the club sustainable.
Looking at alternative revenue streams for the good of the club is not necessarily out of touch with fans ownership and has proved to work in other clubs.
The trust do have to keep overall control of club affairs to avoid getting into debt. Exeter let control slip and ended up with a bill for £100k which hadn't been approved, on one occasion.
Personally not averse to additional funds from the wider community but it can't always be on their terms.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Sorry to disappoint but your impression appears to be based on a small vociferous minority of fans, very few who seem to be trust members.
Most of the membership appear happy with the way things are run, particularly behind the scenes.
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I'm not sure what being a WST member has got to do with being happy or not with the way the club is run. A fan is a fan.

We know after the Stoke FA Cup game most are only members for the discount for tickets, ST etc and that is all. Take that away and I'd bet the membership numbers would drop like a stone to a few hundred die hards.

Unless you've spoken to most of the membership I'm not sure how you've come to your second conclusion either. As the majority don't vote or get involved in any way shape of form you must of just plucked this out of thin air.
Recent polls on here were overwhelming in their displeasure at the ownership after the January debacle that got a lot worse. RP is a general guide as to how fans feel, whether some fans like it or not. Some will disagree with that but this forum is the biggest indication of how fans feel that we have.

For the first time since the WST took control this season has seen real anger towards the board and much of that is their own fault. When you start becoming secretive, sneaky, using 'good news' to win favour with fans and with holding information for the sole purpose of self preservation its quite clear you are in trouble and the clock is ticking. Nothing lasts forever.