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Old 14th June 2019, 09.31:41   #37-0 (permalink)
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Agree we need to move on. We also need to move on from what happened in January too...

True we need to move on but their is quite a few on RP alone who haven't and cannot move on from Hamilton and Moss and unless that happens this club will never progress and keep on drifting aimlessly along.
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Yep it's mind boggling but I think they believe they didn't get anything wrong in January. I appreciate some on here think they are to be blamed for everything but its not as clear cut as that. If Pete Jones' version of events is to be believed (and I have no evidence to the contrary) they didn't force Barrow into changing his mind.

What's more galling is them holding information to release it at the time which benefits them the most and the spin that comes with it - ie why would you hold a meet the manager with Barrow when he was going.

There are ways of dealing with this as is rightly said and why we are able to vote people onto the trust board and bring in resolutions of our own. I'm amazed, considering the strength of feeling on here, that someone hasn't put forward a motion of no confidence in the football club board. Much easier to bleat on here though.
Yeah, I think this is the biggest issue.
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True we need to move on but their is quite a few on RP alone who haven't and cannot move on from Hamilton and Moss and unless that happens this club will never progress and keep on drifting aimlessly along.
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And there are those who need to move on from their the board is to blame for every ill in January stance too.

Without both sides doing that - it'll just remain fractured.
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And there are those who need to move on from their the board is to blame for every ill in January stance too.

Without both sides doing that - it'll just remain fractured.
It's either black or white.

No shades of grey.
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And there are those who need to move on from their the board is to blame for every ill in January stance too.

Without both sides doing that - it'll just remain fractured.
Yes its the key point.
WST people cant move on from Moss so its hardly surprising the level of frustration that still sits from as recently as Jan.

They key point IMO being we didnt deal with the extra quality issue and simply made the same quantity mistake. Thats not even throwing in the manager issue.

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It's either black or white.

No shades of grey.
That seems to be society at the moment but it's not helpful - especially when we're all working towards the same goal.
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That seems to be society at the moment but it's not helpful - especially when we're all working towards the same goal.
The problem is that we are not working towards the same goal. Some of us want the best for WFC, but for others the priority is either an ideology or their own power and status.
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And there are those who need to move on from their the board is to blame for every ill in January stance too.

Without both sides doing that - it'll just remain fractured.

Theirs a simple answer to all that the board publicly apologise to the fans show some humility instead of blaming the fans who voiced disapproval of mistakes made not once but 2 yrs running.
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Here is the problem, you can't morally justifiably argue to the fan base that abuse is wrong to board members when board members have been onto forums in the past slating various fans. Also Mark Creighton got pelters on social media a while back, as has Dean Saunders, I don't recall anyone at the time putting out a message saying this was wrong. You can't sit on the moral high ground complaining only when it suits. Its either right or wrong, it can't be wrong only when it suits.
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