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Old 14th June 2019, 11.15:04   #61-0 (permalink)
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Getting people on the WST board who agree with you is a start... how many people actually vote?
Not many.

It would be interesting if the proposal to allow campaigning on social media was passed, as this has the potential to massively change the make-up of the WST board and by extension the club board.

It won't be passed though, as the WST board oppose it. Being cynical it doesn't take a genius to work out why.
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Not many.

It would be interesting if the proposal to allow campaigning on social media was passed, as this has the potential to massively change the make-up of the WST board and by extension the club board.

It won't be passed though, as the WST board oppose it. Being cynical it doesn't take a genius to work out why.
I actually voted against that one as i agree with the Trust board that we don't want a popularity contest, we want the best candidates.
The problem with the resolution process is you get black or white, you support the proposal in its entirety or stick to the status quo. There were 2 resolutions this time that brought that issue to me. With the campaigning one, I agree that there needs to be more information on candidates, what they stand for and what they want to achieve on the Trust board but i would want that in an official capacity giving equal air time to all not on a popularity social media campaigning so I had to oppose the resolution where as i don't actually oppose the thought process behind it.
Also with Bryn Law's amendment to the Gateway. I think £50k is too high and £2k is too low but they were the only two options to vote for
Old 14th June 2019, 11.24:05   #63-0 (permalink)
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Not many.

It would be interesting if the proposal to allow campaigning on social media was passed, as this has the potential to massively change the make-up of the WST board and by extension the club board.

It won't be passed though, as the WST board oppose it. Being cynical it doesn't take a genius to work out why.
It's all very well being cynical and you may have a valid point but if the board is made up of the most popular facebook users, I dread to think of the mess the club would be in within 6 months.
Seems to me that the more responsible people leave facebook and twitter etc alone.
I believe that the only way is to organise hustings. Each candidate is given 5 minutes to outline his / her vision and attributes and can then be questioned.
Never easy to get 6 or 7 people in the room at the same time / date but got to be worth a try.

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It's been pointed out to me that Pete's comment about Barrow letting the board know at the end of January could be seen as misleading.

I've been told it's a fact that he informed them on 12th January before the Meet the Manager event was held on the 16th.
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Old 14th June 2019, 11.31:22   #65-0 (permalink)
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Not many.

It would be interesting if the proposal to allow campaigning on social media was passed, as this has the potential to massively change the make-up of the WST board and by extension the club board.

It won't be passed though, as the WST board oppose it. Being cynical it doesn't take a genius to work out why.
Right... so say if 150 vote? If people are as disenfranchised as people on here say then it doesn't require a lot of effort to get a candidate on the board. With a little bit of organisation, that could be achieved.
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I actually voted against that one as i agree with the Trust board that we don't want a popularity contest, we want the best candidates.
The problem with the resolution process is you get black or white, you support the proposal in its entirety or stick to the status quo. There were 2 resolutions this time that brought that issue to me. With the campaigning one, I agree that there needs to be more information on candidates, what they stand for and what they want to achieve on the Trust board but i would want that in an official capacity giving equal air time to all not on a popularity social media campaigning so I had to oppose the resolution where as i don't actually oppose the thought process behind it.
Also with Bryn Law's amendment to the Gateway. I think £50k is too high and £2k is too low but they were the only two options to vote for
I agree it isn't a pupularity contest; however having the ability to engage with fans before election has the potential to change the make-up of both boards. It could also mean sitting board members seriously thinking into how they may need to change in order stay, if they wish to. These banal statements which get put out are just that.

It's difficult. Any member voted onto the board could be inappropriate, but they're not a single voice.
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It's all very well being cynical and you may have a valid point but if the board is made up of the most popular facebook users, I dread to think of the mess the club would be in within 6 months.
Seems to me that the more responsible people leave facebook and twitter etc alone.
I believe that the only way is to organise hustings. Each candidate is given 5 minutes to outline his / her vision and attributes and can then be questioned.
Never easy to get 6 or 7 people in the room at the same time / date but got to be worth a try.
It doesn't have to be hustings. As well as a personal statement there could be some set meaningful questions for each candidate to answer on the application form. This way they can still write all their "I've been a fan for x years" rubbish on the statement but the questions give us comparative information on each candidate. Another way is for members to submit questions they want to ask candidates to the election committee and answers (to sensible non abusive questions) are answered then circulated to all members.
Of course we could benefit from technology and do hustings on line?
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It's been pointed out to me that Pete's comment about Barrow letting the board know at the end of January could be seen as misleading.

I've been told it's a fact that he informed them on 12th January before the Meet the Manager event was held on the 16th.
His comments are not misleading they are incorrect. Barrow informed the board before the meet the manager event which as you say was held on the 16th January.
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It doesn't have to be hustings. As well as a personal statement there could be some set meaningful questions for each candidate to answer on the application form. This way they can still write all their "I've been a fan for x years" rubbish on the statement but the questions give us comparative information on each candidate. Another way is for members to submit questions they want to ask candidates to the election committee and answers (to sensible non abusive questions) are answered then circulated to all members.
Of course we could benefit from technology and do hustings on line?
Great ideas. Especially if we get the questions right.
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Right... so say if 150 vote? If people are as disenfranchised as people on here say then it doesn't require a lot of effort to get a candidate on the board. With a little bit of organisation, that could be achieved.
That's one of the issues.

Voting needs to be increased to increase diversity. If only a small proportion vote, and always vote the same way, the status quo is maintained.
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