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Old 6th July 2019, 08.07:44   #21-0 (permalink)
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If pressure is needed for funding then wouldnít this be better through the main project?

If WAG are 1 of the 4 main parties then do we really have to lobby them?
They must be expecting a level of investment already if they have been talking.

Individual petitions may just look like the numbers are diluted. A few hundred here and there isnít as powerful. It might be the same people signing the same petitions which isnít a bigger number.

Rather sign a project related one.
Stronger together as they say
Politicising this is counter productive.
If the petition had been started by the fans I believe that we could have far more signatories and greater effect.
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Politicising this is counter productive.
If the petition had been started by the fans I believe that we could have far more signatories and greater effect.
Fans were writting to AM's, MP' and councillors amid the apparent McDonald's interest in the land behing the Kop. Unsurprisingly, the WST once again sat on their hands, they've a bad habit of doing so.

Let's also not forget it was Plaid Cymru who were very vocal on getting a national football museum in Wrexham, unfortunately this is going to be at the museum rather than part of a proposed Kop redevelopment as they wanted.

Labour are running scared in Wrexham, their majority has dwindled to the point they could be toppled in the next elections.

So, it's time for people to grow up and do things with the best interests of the town in mind, no matter your political beliefs , Labour have shown for years they couldnt care less. Only now because they could lose a couple of key seats.

It's time to send them a message, until that's done Wrexham will see none of the money the south enjoy.

A signature for every seat in the stand would send a huge message to Colgate Ken and chums, they've promised this or that for years and still haven't delivered anything. Not even a guarantee on funding!
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Politicising this is counter productive.
If the petition had been started by the fans I believe that we could have far more signatories and greater effect.
Exactly. 1 port of call would be far better with all the signatures.
Ideally done through the project and presented as part if it.
It would add credibility and show the real numbers.

Although if WAG are one of the parties they must be expecting to invest anyway.
This is the bit that surprises and worries me.
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I struggle to see what's contentious about petition whatever coloured political ribbon is tied to it. If you support the sentiment then sign it regardless of whether you're Plaid, Labour, Tory or whatever. Our captain Shaun Pearson has apparently!
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I struggle to see what's contentious about petition whatever coloured political ribbon is tied to it. If you support the sentiment then sign it regardless of whether you're Plaid, Labour, Tory or whatever. Our captain Shaun Pearson has apparently!
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I did see Pearsonís name pop up
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Old 6th July 2019, 10.42:49   #26-0 (permalink)
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I struggle to see what's contentious about petition whatever coloured political ribbon is tied to it. If you support the sentiment then sign it regardless of whether you're Plaid, Labour, Tory or whatever. Our captain Shaun Pearson has apparently!
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Itís not contentious itís how many of these will do the rounds.
Sign a PC one a Welsh national one a labour one a Tory one........

My preference is it all joined up and I just sign once (yes I am a lazy f....r).
Each to his own and if there are 50 petitions then fine but for me I would prefer it being done as part of the project and presented that way to support it.
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I struggle to see what's contentious about petition whatever coloured political ribbon is tied to it. If you support the sentiment then sign it regardless of whether you're Plaid, Labour, Tory or whatever. Our captain Shaun Pearson has apparently!
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Correct, let's not derail this thread by over debating the politics or being negative.
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Itís not contentious itís how many of these will do the rounds.
Sign a PC one a Welsh national one a labour one a Tory one........

My preference is it all joined up and I just sign once (yes I am a lazy f....r).
Each to his own and if there are 50 petitions then fine but for me I would prefer it being done as part of the project and presented that way to support it.
Honestly mate, I just don't think Labour or Tory could give less of a toss about whether we get a new stand or not. As you said, the WAG must already have funding in mind though so we'll see where it goes.
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Itís not contentious itís how many of these will do the rounds.
Sign a PC one a Welsh national one a labour one a Tory one........

My preference is it all joined up and I just sign once (yes I am a lazy f....r).
Each to his own and if there are 50 petitions then fine but for me I would prefer it being done as part of the project and presented that way to support it.
Agreed. As the local Labour A.M.s have worked hard to bring this proposed development forward, this seems to be a case of Plaid Cymru trying to steal their credit.
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Agreed. As the local Labour A.M.s have worked hard to bring this proposed development forward, this seems to be a case of Plaid Cymru trying to steal their credit.
Don't make me laugh, it's the club who've chased everyone. People were in touch with Labour AM's who wanted the club to approach them not the other way round. These AM's couldnt even be bothered to email the main players to get a meeting sorted, it"s taken years to even get this far!

To suggest otherwise discredits the work Spencer Harris and Co have done. Those involved and worked hard have signed the petition, I think tells it's own story.

Anyone willing to help our cause should be supported, only Plaid Cymru have started a petition of all the political parties, expect the Tories to voice their support early next week once it gains real traction.

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