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redmatt 10th July 2019 16.14:01

Bobby Grant
 
Been saying all last year he needs to play as a CAM, and by the sounds of it last night he played as 1 of 2 CAM’s and played fantastic. Could be like a new signing if we play to his strengths this season!

EnglishRed 10th July 2019 17.04:10

Re: Bobby Grant
 
A refreshingly honest interview from him as well.

Could be a big player for us next season.

Gwersyllt-Robin 10th July 2019 17.19:35

Re: Bobby Grant
 
I hope for his and our sake he rediscovers his old form.

Alan Attack 10th July 2019 17.25:38

Re: Bobby Grant
 
I’d only play him in midfield if he has two dogs working behind him.

I’d play him on the right in a front three

moynkeepthefaith 10th July 2019 17.28:37

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2273444]I’d only play him in midfield if he has two dogs working behind him.

I’d play him on the right in a front three[/QUOTE]

Hey Alan - maybe we need to sign Didier Dogba ?

Percy Sugden 10th July 2019 17.38:35

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=redmatt;2273422]Been saying all last year he needs to play as a CAM, and by the sounds of it last night he played as 1 of 2 CAM’s and played fantastic. Could be like a new signing if we play to his strengths this season![/QUOTE]

Totally agree. Instead we played Akil last season.....

Royal welsh red 10th July 2019 17.50:42

Re: Bobby Grant
 
Don’t know why but I have a strange feeling he’s going to come good for us, hope I’m right.

redmatt 10th July 2019 17.54:26

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2273444]I’d only play him in midfield if he has two dogs working behind him.

I’d play him on the right in a front three[/QUOTE]

Problem is he isn’t fast enough to play on the right In my opinion

wreck's 'em 10th July 2019 17.59:26

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Royal welsh red;2273449]Don’t know why but I have a strange feeling he’s going to come good for us, hope I’m right.[/QUOTE]

Probably because he’s been our best player so far this pre-season?

Willywill 10th July 2019 18.27:48

Re: Bobby Grant
 
What’s a CAM? Another super cool, trendy name - bit like a No 10 ?

dixienormous 10th July 2019 18.28:49

Re: Bobby Grant
 
He does look much fitter to be fair.

davewilli 10th July 2019 18.29:27

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2273444]I’d only play him in midfield if he has two dogs working behind him.

I’d play him on the right in a front three[/QUOTE]

Me too, I think that is where he is most effective cutting in and shooting with his left peg.

Legspinner 10th July 2019 19.09:48

Re: Bobby Grant
 
Possibly our greatest ever no 7 who played wide right in a front 3 had no pace at all, Bobby Shinton was a wizard(with the unselfish running of Mel to help), pace is not always a must for a winger if playing in the right system with the right players.

redmatt 10th July 2019 19.11:39

[QUOTE=Willywill;2273453]What’s a CAM? Another super cool, trendy name - bit like a No 10 ?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Attacking midfield (No 10)

redmatt 10th July 2019 19.12:14

[QUOTE=Legspinner;2273464]Possibly our greatest ever no 7 who played wide right in a front 3 had no pace at all, Bobby Shinton was a wizard(with the unselfish running of Mel to help), pace is not always a must for a winger if playing in the right system with the right players.[/QUOTE]

Fair play very good point.

simon4012 10th July 2019 19.14:10

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=davewilli;2273455]Me too, I think that is where he is most effective cutting in and shooting with his left peg.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. A la jon cross. He had no pace but was very effective.

Lods 10th July 2019 19.25:11

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Willywill;2273453]What’s a CAM? Another super cool, trendy name - bit like a No 10 ?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much the same as a no. 10. Stand for centre/central-attacking midfielder.

Colomiers Phoenix 10th July 2019 19.37:09

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Willywill;2273453]What’s a CAM? Another super cool, trendy name - bit like a No 10 ?[/QUOTE]

Thank flip someone had the balls to ask the question. Too many TLAs (Three Letter Acronyms ) for my liking

griff49 10th July 2019 20.00:24

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Legspinner;2273464]Possibly our greatest ever no 7 who played wide right in a front 3 had no pace at all, Bobby Shinton was a wizard(with the unselfish running of Mel to help), pace is not always a must for a winger if playing in the right system with the right players.[/QUOTE]

Oops did you ever see Ron Barnes in the early sixties and what of Arfon? AG must win it hands down as a player given his longevity and versatility.

Foxy 10th July 2019 20.04:46

Re: Bobby Grant
 
By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.

Paul Roberts 10th July 2019 20.26:19

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273492]By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.[/QUOTE]

FFS. Let's hope your post ages badly.

krux 10th July 2019 20.41:43

[QUOTE=Willywill;2273453]What’s a CAM? Another super cool, trendy name - bit like a No 10 ?[/QUOTE]

Anyone would think you dont play fifa or other football computer games.
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redmatt 10th July 2019 20.45:10

[QUOTE=Foxy;2273492]By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.[/QUOTE]

Hope not!

Alan Attack 10th July 2019 22.18:49

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273492]By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.[/QUOTE]

By wanting a Wrexham player to do well? I bloody despair sometimes. One of the fundamentals of being a supporter is supporting your team. If not, what the hell are you doing?

gazwxm 10th July 2019 22.24:37

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273492]By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.[/QUOTE]

I’m shocked you were the first to be negative on this post, you are normally so positive about our players! I was a big critic of Grant last year, let’s hope he proves us wrong, at least give him a chance

Cenotaff 10th July 2019 22.59:17

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273492]By October the OP will be eating a huge dollop of humble pie.[/QUOTE]

I'd much rather it's you eating it, like with Lainton.

redmatt 10th July 2019 22.59:36

[QUOTE=Alan Attack;2273509]By wanting a Wrexham player to do well? I bloody despair sometimes. One of the fundamentals of being a supporter is supporting your team. If not, what the hell are you doing?[/QUOTE]

Well said!

Hawarden Red10 10th July 2019 23.04:16

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Cenotaff;2273515]I'd much rather it's you eating it, like with Lainton.[/QUOTE]

Shhh don't remind him of that stroke of genius this time last year

gazwxm 10th July 2019 23.19:57

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Hawarden Red10;2273517]Shhh don't remind him of that stroke of genius this time last year[/QUOTE]

Shows how much he knows 😂

Back of the Kop 11th July 2019 02.14:27

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Cenotaff;2273515]I'd much rather it's you eating it, like with Lainton.[/QUOTE]

I think Foxy thought everyone had forgotten that little nugget of RP gold.Priceless :44:

Foxy 11th July 2019 06.34:24

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Cenotaff;2273515]I'd much rather it's you eating it, like with Lainton.[/QUOTE]

I may have had that one wrong but am still not totally convinced either one way or the other. Last season I left every match struggling to give him marks out of ten because he actually had very little to do.

Grant ? I hope I’m wrong because there is a player there but I will be very surprised if I am. This is a player who the manager himself would have released if Grant hadn’t had an absurd ability to retain himself.

moynkeepthefaith 11th July 2019 06.50:39

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273530]I may have had that one wrong but am still not totally convinced either one way or the other. Last season I left every match struggling to give him marks out of ten because he actually had very little to do.

Grant ? I hope I’m wrong because there is a player there but I will be very surprised if I am. This is a player who the manager himself would have released if Grant hadn’t had an absurd ability to retain himself.[/QUOTE]

I believe he had the most clean sheets in the top 5 divisions which must have had something to do with him ? I saw him have some imperious games - Bwood away springs to mind.

Regarding Grant - how do you know he would have been released ?

Foxy 11th July 2019 06.55:40

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2273533]I believe he had the most clean sheets in the top 5 divisions which must have had something to do with him ? I saw him have some imperious games - Bwood away springs to mind.

Regarding Grant - how do you know he would have been released ?[/QUOTE]

I think the clean sheets were more to do with two top notch centre halves, a very organised back 4 (protected by Walker) and an ultra defensive approach across the whole team. This left an isolated striker up front. The lack of goals was definitely linked with the high number of clean sheets. That is, the clean sheets weren’t really a result of Lainton saves.

I’m assuming the obvious in terms of Grant bring released. His attitude and form were so poor, that it’s hard to think that any manager on the planet would retain him.

moynkeepthefaith 11th July 2019 07.28:11

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273534]I think the clean sheets were more to do with two top notch centre halves, a very organised back 4 (protected by Walker) and an ultra defensive approach across the whole team. This left an isolated striker up front. The lack of goals was definitely linked with the high number of clean sheets. That is, the clean sheets weren’t really a result of Lainton saves.

I’m assuming the obvious in terms of Grant bring released. His attitude and form were so poor, that it’s hard to think that any manager on the planet would retain him.[/QUOTE]

Interesting because if you compare us with Solihull for example our 'ultra defensive' approach apparently allowed 234 shots on target while theirs allowed only 89 (if we believe FBREF). A rough average of 5 shots a game and 21 clean sheets is not so bad for me.
regarding Grant I just wanted to establish that you were assuming - which is never a problem just defines its authenticity.

Hightown Brymbo Red 11th July 2019 08.39:44

Re: Bobby Grant
 
Grant didnt impress me last season but even so he bizarrely could have ended up as our top scorer he must have hit the woodwork 7/8 times.
Glad the reports are more postive in pre season

KingBuxton_Forever red 11th July 2019 09.25:51

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2273534]I think the clean sheets were more to do with two top notch centre halves, a very organised back 4 (protected by Walker) and an ultra defensive approach across the whole team. This left an isolated striker up front. The lack of goals was definitely linked with the high number of clean sheets. That is, the clean sheets weren’t really a result of Lainton saves.

I’m assuming the obvious in terms of Grant bring released. His attitude and form were so poor, that it’s hard to think that any manager on the planet would retain him.[/QUOTE]

I think that is very harsh on Lainton. Give him some credit, its not just about sticking a good defense in front of any old Joe.

Jaded 11th July 2019 09.40:04

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2273533]I believe he had the most clean sheets in the top 5 divisions which must have had something to do with him ? I saw him have some imperious games - Bwood away springs to mind.

Regarding Grant - how do you know he would have been released ?[/QUOTE]

Agree on Lainton.

The announcement that Grant had exercised an option in his contract to be retained certainly suggested to me that he wouldn’t have been kept without that option.

davewilli 11th July 2019 10.23:54

Re: Bobby Grant
 
[QUOTE=Jaded;2273555]Agree on Lainton.

The announcement that Grant had exercised an option in his contract to be retained certainly suggested to me that he wouldn’t have been kept without that option.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't read too much into the announcement, it just stated a matter of fact. (Opinion) If Grant has any ambition to enjoy his football, to be considered first choice and do well here, he wouldn't have signed if the management team were not 100% behind his decision. It's irrelevant now we have a slimmer and from accounts fitter player, who says he is determined to show he can do much better than last season. If he does this, he can be a big character for us.

We want to attract players with good FL pedigree to the NL then we have to be imaginative with contracts.

red under the bed 11th July 2019 10.49:47

Re: Bobby Grant
 
Had a good game in Portugal.....Looks fitter too

Hawarden Red10 11th July 2019 11.03:43

Re: Bobby Grant
 
Have to say it's so much better when a player gives honest interviews and doesn't do the generic rubbish that 99% do. Always know Grant and Shaun will do interviews worth watching unlike the rest


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