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Old 11th August 2019, 23.10:28   #41-0 (permalink)
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Pete Jones' comments are rather odd if that's the case only published a few months ago...

I believe that's what most who want investment would want, working together, it's certainly what I want.
The difficulty may be that with the majority of private investors they want their own way in return for their money and they are not prepared to let supporters work with them to find good solutions.
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Oh and yes I would expect them to carry out due diligence. As far as I am aware no one on the Board or Trust is dismissing investors out of hand . In my mind investors should legally sit alongside the supporters if they are deemed to be suitable . Not just taking over and replacing the Trust just because the team is not performing as well as they think it should be .
Would you buy your house and let one of the board members live in it for free?

Of course you wouldn’t, in your mind you aren’t living in reality.

If the club wanted success it has to be paid for and if there is someone sat on the board with money then the wst are on the same board what actually are they bringing to the table in all honesty?
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The difficulty may be that with the majority of private investors they want their own way in return for their money and they are not prepared to let supporters work with them to find good solutions.
Supporters haven’t found good solutions in how many years, best case scenario would be fans representation on a board at a buyout.

Bryn law said those who contacted him should be listened too, Dixie posted another who the board have blocked, can the guy who knows an Italian tried to make contact and had no reply make himself known again if your reading this as he/she is a regular poster on here.

There’s nobody out there though honest!
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Supporters haven’t found good solutions in how many years, best case scenario would be fans representation on a board at a buyout.

Bryn law said those who contacted him should be listened too, Dixie posted another who the board have blocked, can the guy who knows an Italian tried to make contact and had no reply make himself known again if your reading this as he/she is a regular poster on here.

There’s nobody out there though honest!
No one has made anything like a serious approach to the board.

If a potential "Investor" can't stump up £5k to do due diligence and keep their mouths shut during the process then I think it says a lot about the type of people they are.
I find it amusing that the sudden "surge" of interest comes when the club is financially viable due to the efforts of the trust and we have the ability to use the Ward money as and when it comes in.
Bryn Law hardly knew the so called interested party, they contacted him for a view. Then they backed out because they couldn't abide by simple rules.
When has Dixie's man approached the trust? Would like to see some substance to this alleged Investor / buyer.
The system is in place to consider approaches and the rules were endorsed at the last agm with Mr Laws amendments thrown out.
£5k to begin the process is peanuts in the whole scheme of things, Has the queue started to form or is it just fictitious.
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No one has made anything like a serious approach to the board.

If a potential "Investor" can't stump up £5k to do due diligence and keep their mouths shut during the process then I think it says a lot about the type of people they are.
I find it amusing that the sudden "surge" of interest comes when the club is financially viable due to the efforts of the trust and we have the ability to use the Ward money as and when it comes in.
Bryn Law hardly knew the so called interested party, they contacted him for a view. Then they backed out because they couldn't abide by simple rules.
When has Dixie's man approached the trust? Would like to see some substance to this alleged Investor / buyer.
The system is in place to consider approaches and the rules were endorsed at the last agm with Mr Laws amendments thrown out.
£5k to begin the process is peanuts in the whole scheme of things, Has the queue started to form or is it just fictitious.
This is also speculation on your part, as is the majority of your post. So whilst calling people out on here for posting what they have heard, rumours, speculating, you're now doing the same in an attempt to discredit the people that contacted Bryn Law.
I'm sure we all read that they didn't sign the NDA based on Lawyers advice which is what most sensible people would do.
Saying they backed out because they couldn't follow simple rules is just not the case. Nice try though, although I'm little surprised you've resorted to stuff like this QR. I know you think the sun shines out of a WST glory hole but often there is no smoke without fire and some fans need to open their eyes, you're being taken for a ride to a certain extent and loyalty is being exploited.

If only the WST had the backbone to just come out and say they don't want any help from outside and won't consider any approach to invest or whatever then at least we all know for sure. They way they've done it is just cowardly, just my opinion. Bagger summed it up perfectly a while back on another thread.
The claim of them being transparent is now laughable too. Its takes some brass neck to still run with that one. The January fiasco and Manny Smith contract blows that out of the water straight away. So lets stop pedalling that myth which can no longer be backed up and has been well and truly exposed.
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I am reminded of that song by Whitesnake - altogether now "here I go again...". This always seems to pipe up after a bad defeat.
It's like ghosts - a lot of people think these benevolent investors exist and believe they have seen them - yet most people have seen no evidence at all.
If you don't mind I will remain a sceptic until I see something concrete. Que abuse and accusations I am related to the board.
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I believe that this 'investor' malarky is pie in the sky.

Putting my business hat on - there is no way I would put up 5K for due dil to anyone let alone a non league outfit being kept afloat by its fans.

PS - Leave the Vice Chair position alone. It is just a position on the board with no additional voting power unless the Chair is absent. Being V CH does not give an automatic place on the club board.

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I am reminded of that song by Whitesnake - altogether now "here I go again...". This always seems to pipe up after a bad defeat.
It's like ghosts - a lot of people think these benevolent investors exist and believe they have seen them - yet most people have seen no evidence at all.
If you don't mind I will remain a sceptic until I see something concrete. Que abuse and accusations I am related to the board.
There have been enough red flags now for fans to see all is not what it seems.Whether you choose to take any notice of them is up to the individual.

Any other owners and these flags would have sparked a demand for answers. Not at this club anymore. Apathy rules.
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This is also speculation on your part, as is the majority of your post. So whilst calling people out on here for posting what they have heard, rumours, speculating, you're now doing the same in an attempt to discredit the people that contacted Bryn Law.
Not attempting to discredit anyone. Just calling it as I see it. You may view it differently. (your choice)
I'm sure we all read that they didn't sign the NDA based on Lawyers advice which is what most sensible people would do.
This has been debated and still remains unresolved. Some would accept that an NDA is reasonable, others don't. The view of the membership is that it is an important part of the procedure to protect the club.
Saying they backed out because they couldn't follow simple rules is just not the case. Nice try though, although I'm little surprised you've resorted to stuff like this QR. I know you think the sun shines out of a WST glory hole but often there is no smoke without fire and some fans need to open their eyes, you're being taken for a ride to a certain extent and loyalty is being exploited.
Ouch. and unnecessary. The rules are there to be followed. This consortium didn't get to stage 1 and make an official approach. If they were serious then I would have expected them to reveal an interest publicly.
As to the rest, I would have hoped that even you would not try to judge me, I have my own opinions, don't trust anyone and make my own mind up.

If only the WST had the backbone to just come out and say they don't want any help from outside and won't consider any approach to invest or whatever then at least we all know for sure. They way they've done it is just cowardly, just my opinion. Bagger summed it up perfectly a while back on another thread.
If there was no appetite at all for additional funding then the membership wouldn't have approved the gateway process. As far as I'm aware there have only bee a couple of approaches from time wasters or chancers. I look forward to an approach from anyone with a real interest in helping us go forward but not at any cost.
The claim of them being transparent is now laughable too. Its takes some brass neck to still run with that one. The January fiasco and Manny Smith contract blows that out of the water straight away. So lets stop pedalling that myth which can no longer be backed up and has been well and truly exposed.
Personally not bothered about when contracts are signed as once offered and accepted they are legally binding. Odd that it wasn't announced.
As for January, it could and maybe should have been handled better but that was 7 months back. As long as the board have learned a lesson from it then they should be able to manage things better in future.
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Personally not bothered about when contracts are signed as once offered and accepted they are legally binding. Odd that it wasn't announced.
As for January, it could and maybe should have been handled better but that was 7 months back. As long as the board have learned a lesson from it then they should be able to manage things better in future.
Missed the point. Its what it exposes them as being capable of i.e. withholding news and keeping secrets and using it as currency with fans to what is "buying" support and thus ensuring self preservation on the board(s).

Its still a far cry of the claims of transparency whichever way its spun, whether you care or not about not being told of a contract renewal is irrelevant.
Apathy is now rife and you've given the perfect example of this by saying its 7 months back (So what, it still happened and got swept under the carpet?) and then saying that as long as they've learned a lesson, (what lesson is that then, actually be transparent as per their own claims?) and they should be able to manage things better in the future is just in my view turning a blind eye to what should be a real eye opener. I'm not sure whats worse, the boards recent underhanded actions or fans turning a blind eye to it.
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