Dean Saunders banged up

[Zipper]

Originally Posted by Cymru Rydd

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...after-19034336

Shocking how that footage has got out but that is the times we live in
Shocking how he has got in a car driving he has certainly had a few

[Red Light]

Originally Posted by Vorporix

He will hire an expensive brief - not only will he get off - he will probably get compo from the police!

I have not read the full account but believe the appeal is against sentence not conviction which I believe he entered guilty pleas to failing to provide a roadside breath specimen and later ones for analysis.

So it might well boil down to this.

Not everyone who is convicted of drink driving offences including failing to provide specimens gets imprisonment - most receive a fine or similar - so why has he been sent to prison ? Has he a history and is a repeat offender ? Unless there are some other related circumstances the facts would suggest he is. On the day he was stopped / asked to provide specimens it was not as a result of him being involved in a serious collision that caused injury to others so my guess is he has fairly recent similar offences against him. Perhaps he was disqualified from driving when he was stopped but the press reports don't suggest this. Alternatively he may have seriously gone out of his way to piss the court off and generate a reaction against him.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Zipper

Shocking how that footage has got out but that is the times we live in

CPS have released it to media, so not leaked or anything like that.

[Vambo]

So glad he's out, can't imagine how custodial pies could be relegated, but I'm sure he could find a way.

[Red Light]

Claiming to have had just one pint then his solicitor suggesting it could have been a mix up taking drink together with prescribed drugs wont get him anywhere.

The simple 'get out' was to provide a roadside sample.

Nobody will ever know now what he had consumed - I have known people have a pint or two provide a roadside specimen - in reality being under the limit is your only get out - those who point blank refuse to provide anything like a relative of mine probably know in their hears they are so pissed it would look even worse if their true readings were discovered.

And going off the press article - the one offence you cannot delay procedure wise is drink related driving because you want to chat about it with your solicitor (if and when he / she can be located).

I go back to my earlier message - there are plenty of people in Saunders position ending up in court for refusal to provide specimens of breath - it's very unusual to say the least for them to be sent to prison without any aggravating circumstances - the outcome of the appeal will be interesting and so will the grounds offered by his legal rep.

[Mr Wonderful]

Public shaming. You can’t beat it.

[sparky]

Well more often than not I've defended him on here, but that's shocking behaviour and utterly indefensible. He should be ashamed of what he did and he and his legal team should be even more ashamed that they are trying to worm their way out of it. I hope the appeal backfires and gets even more bird. Disgusting.

[Vorporix]

Originally Posted by sparky

Well more often than not I've defended him on here, but that's shocking behaviour and utterly indefensible. He should be ashamed of what he did and he and his legal team should be even more ashamed that they are trying to worm their way out of it. I hope the appeal backfires and gets even more bird. Disgusting.

I agree - I would have had a little more sympathy had he pleaded guilty and shown some remorse - perhaps stating in public how stupid he had been.

[Red Light]

Originally Posted by Vorporix

I agree - I would have had a little more sympathy had he pleaded guilty and shown some remorse - perhaps stating in public how stupid he had been.

I think he did plead guilty to refusing to provide the samples both at roadside and at the police station.

I believe the appeal is not against conviction purely based on the sentence - i.e. being sent to prison.

The Court and CPS might be deliberately going out of their way to use his case as a high profile celebrity publicity warning to others. With the bodycam video footage there is unlikely to be a better example.