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Old 30th August 2019, 09.39:34   #109-0 (permalink)
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I think he did plead guilty to refusing to provide the samples both at roadside and at the police station.

I believe the appeal is not against conviction purely based on the sentence - i.e. being sent to prison.

The Court and CPS might be deliberately going out of their way to use his case as a high profile celebrity publicity warning to others. With the bodycam video footage there is unlikely to be a better example.
He changed his plea from not guilty to guilty according to press reports.....
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Old 30th August 2019, 09.45:23   #110-0 (permalink)
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Out after 1 day and on bail pending an appeal
Sounds like his anecdotes are finally getting some traction.
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Old 30th August 2019, 10.51:59   #111-0 (permalink)
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He changed his plea from not guilty to guilty according to press reports.....
Lots do - play the system for as long as possible and change your plea last minute - but in reality he's up the creek without a paddle - it's so cut and dry - he had two options - provide breath samples or don't - he made the wrong selection but it's all irrelevant now.

The appeal all comes down to one issue - severity of sentence - should he go to prison for 10 weeks ? what are the sentencing guidelines at Magistrates Court for simple non aggravated failure or refusal to provide breath samples - why has he been sentenced to prison whilst many others in a similar position do not.
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Old 30th August 2019, 11.08:12   #112-0 (permalink)
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I have not read the full account but believe the appeal is against sentence not conviction which I believe he entered guilty pleas to failing to provide a roadside breath specimen and later ones for analysis.

So it might well boil down to this.

Not everyone who is convicted of drink driving offences including failing to provide specimens gets imprisonment - most receive a fine or similar - so why has he been sent to prison ? Has he a history and is a repeat offender ? Unless there are some other related circumstances the facts would suggest he is. On the day he was stopped / asked to provide specimens it was not as a result of him being involved in a serious collision that caused injury to others so my guess is he has fairly recent similar offences against him. Perhaps he was disqualified from driving when he was stopped but the press reports don't suggest this. Alternatively he may have seriously gone out of his way to piss the court off and generate a reaction against him.
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Don't know about arrogance but he came across as pretty thick in the video!
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Old 30th August 2019, 11.40:16   #113-0 (permalink)
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The moment he was stopped.

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/17...-U99VGf_NPXD-k
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Old 30th August 2019, 12.09:11   #114-0 (permalink)
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Shouldn't this thread be on "Off Topic or General football" mods?
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Old 30th August 2019, 12.31:51   #115-0 (permalink)
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Shock, Horror FACTS on Red Passion

Don't know about arrogance but he came across as pretty thick in the video!
RL says he hasn't read the full account, and this is what he believes. So not FACT at all.
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RL says he hasn't read the full account, and this is what he believes. So not FACT at all.
Ouch!
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Old 30th August 2019, 13.05:03   #117-0 (permalink)
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Blimey , he never went to Crown Court , he pleaded Guilty at Chester Magistrates Court whereupon he was sentenced and went straight to prison , do people read .
Yeah, but if he’d stayed at the Magistrate’s he would have faired better...
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