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Old 1st September 2019, 02.35:11   #51-0 (permalink)
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I want fan ownership to work.
Lets start by making it ownership not membership then.
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Old 1st September 2019, 06.55:24   #52-0 (permalink)
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A good start would be to replace both Bircham and Horne properly, it's been on a steady slide since then.

Not that everything was brilliant back then.
Do we know why these two stepped down to start with ? and the departure of Bryn Law ?
Things are not right at our Club , The Board , Harris, They are not Football people , in the sense that Horne was , We need that direction from someone .
Old 1st September 2019, 07.14:54   #53-0 (permalink)
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Yes but having complained you either get the builder to sort it out or find a better one that is prepared to take the job on! Unless you know a better one who will take the job on what other options do you have ??
You are quite correct cosmic , because the alternative is falling into the hands of some unscrupulous bloke who would finish us off as per Bury.
Old 1st September 2019, 07.38:37   #54-0 (permalink)
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Incredible that some are still spinning it for Spencer and the rest. Fact of the matter is that they have failed the club and moreover, the fans with their inept management of the football matters. They have listened to Darlo too much and have lorded it about our club for too long destroying the playing side without a care. If they love the club like they claim they do, they will step down. Im also not into the ‘you do it then’ brigade as I am not at all qualified to run a football club, exactly why we should get someone who is, in!
Old 1st September 2019, 08.19:58   #55-0 (permalink)
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Incredible that some are still spinning it for Spencer and the rest. Fact of the matter is that they have failed the club and moreover, the fans with their inept management of the football matters. They have listened to Darlo too much and have lorded it about our club for too long destroying the playing side without a care. If they love the club like they claim they do, they will step down. Im also not into the ‘you do it then’ brigade as I am not at all qualified to run a football club, exactly why we should get someone who is, in!
It is obvious that the footballing side of the business is not working and therefore something has to change, however, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Instead of people going we need people to come in to strengthen the board. As I have been saying we need a Director of Football.
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It is obvious that the footballing side of the business is not working and therefore something has to change, however, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Instead of people going we need people to come in to strengthen the board. As I have been saying we need a Director of Football.
To strengthen the board??? That’s like papering over the cracks. The board ARE the problem and quite clearly. They are accountable for the debacle and parade of managers THEY have appointed. If the apples in the basket are bad you get rid, you don’t add more to it to get ‘bruised’.
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The fans don't make that decision , so why blame them . Should you be contacting Lord Harris of MyRacecourshire and his side kick Mills and Boom .
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Do we know why these two stepped down to start with ? and the departure of Bryn Law ?
Things are not right at our Club , The Board , Harris, They are not Football people , in the sense that Horne was , We need that direction from someone .
All to do with the appointment of Mills, they weren't happy with it, although it will never be made official.
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You can have twenty Directors , but if only two are making the decisions , which seems pretty evident then what's the point . They can't let go , a HR man not being able to delegate is what it is .
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If we have an elected board the club will die in my opinion. No elect the trust board which chooses football board. That said do remember that most of the football board are elected to the trust board.
And that is one of the problems. The 1/3 of the Trust board who sit on the football board will never remove themselves from position meaning in reality to remove a Director means 70/80% majority of the rest is needed, it also means at least 2 years of voting off current WST board members to change the balance enough. Even if a board member was voted out at a WST election they could be co opted back on

The solution is to have separation of committees - no football club board member to have voting rights on WST board meaning less protection, more accountability and the fans then have a genuine chance to influence if they so wished.

I’m with you on the need for another board member but I think it’s a CEO not Director of Football
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