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CosmicCol 31st August 2019 17.41:38

New Leadership
 
There seem to many posting about the inadequacies of the WST and Board - and a number of Posters appear to express a derogatory view about Spencer Harris and as part of that call for a change.

What I don’t understand, is if such individuals hold such a view why don’t they stand for election or nominate another person who might have superior capabilities as an alternative?

It is easy to highlight perceived issues with the current regime but the WST is democratic so why not forward the alternice solutions for Leadership that you have.

Names and CVs appreciated in reply

louisleftboot 31st August 2019 17.43:06

Re: New Leadership
 
Barry Bumarse has chucked his name in apparently.

OneLoveWrexham 31st August 2019 17.45:38

Re: New Leadership
 
I have no issues whatsoever SPENCER HARRIS RED AND WHITE ARMY

northwalian dragon 31st August 2019 17.47:25

Re: New Leadership
 
So if you can't do a better job yourself you just have to accept what others are doing?

If you hire a builder who does a terrible job and your extension falls down you're not meant to complain?

The fans are asking for new leadership, from people who know about football. Spencer does a great job but should be relieved of footballing decisions.

Wiltshire_Red 31st August 2019 17.48:24

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2287778]So if you can't do a better job yourself you just have to accept what others are doing?

If you hire a builder who does a terrible job and your extension falls down you're not meant to complain?

The fans are asking for new leadership, from people who know about football. Spencer does a great job but should be relieved of footballing decisions.[/QUOTE]

Well said

jacthelad 31st August 2019 17.48:43

[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2287778]So if you can't do a better job yourself you just have to accept what others are doing?

If you hire a builder who does a terrible job and your extension falls down you're not meant to complain?

The fans are asking for new leadership, from people who know about football. Spencer does a great job but should be relieved of footballing decisions.[/QUOTE]

100% this
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Funny_Old_Game 31st August 2019 17.51:32

Re: New Leadership
 
Haha, this old one again.

I am expecting further “new” users to be popping up on here over the next day or so.

fezbob 31st August 2019 17.52:34

Re: New Leadership
 
I can't play football so I won't complain that half our players couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
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OneLoveWrexham 31st August 2019 17.53:43

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=Funny_Old_Game;2287785]Haha, this old one again.

I am expecting further “new” users to be popping up on here over the next day or so.[/QUOTE]
The wagons are circling

CosmicCol 31st August 2019 17.53:58

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2287778]So if you can't do a better job yourself you just have to accept what others are doing?

If you hire a builder who does a terrible job and your extension falls down you're not meant to complain?

The fans are asking for new leadership, from people who know about football. Spencer does a great job but should be relieved of footballing decisions.[/QUOTE]

Yes but having complained you either get the builder to sort it out or find a better one that is prepared to take the job on! Unless you know a better one who will take the job on what other options do you have ??

paddockgraham 31st August 2019 17.54:29

Re: New Leadership
 
it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm

Wenttoanderlechtin76 31st August 2019 17.54:38

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287773]There seem to many posting about the inadequacies of the WST and Board - and a number of Posters appear to express a derogatory view about Spencer Harris and as part of that call for a change.

What I don’t understand, is if such individuals hold such a view why don’t they stand for election or nominate another person who might have superior capabilities as an alternative?

It is easy to highlight perceived issues with the current regime but the WST is democratic so why not forward the alternice solutions for Leadership that you have.

Names and CVs appreciated in reply[/QUOTE]

:hurray:

dixienormous 31st August 2019 17.56:07

Re: New Leadership
 
It's nothing personal against any of the board members, it's just the decisions they're making on the football side of things are disasterous and killing our club. They need to go, bumarase would be better for now.

Lods 31st August 2019 17.56:30

Re: New Leadership
 
As someone who think Harris has something to offer the club (certainly in a financial/branding way) I don't think "if you don't like it you do it" is a rational response.

Otherwise nobody could complain about anything.

"Wait my food's cold"
"Well go and cook it yourself then"

"I hate what my local MP is doing"
"Well you go and run for MP"

Etc.

dixienormous 31st August 2019 17.57:25

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287790]Yes but having complained you either get the builder to sort it out or find a better one that is prepared to take the job on! Unless you know a better one who will take the job on what other options do you have ??[/QUOTE]

Terry tit face couldn't do any worse.

Captain Dread 31st August 2019 17.59:30

Re: New Leadership
 
I'm standing for election as Dictator of the Universe so I can have the right to an opinion about any subject.

René Higuita 31st August 2019 18.01:25

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=paddockgraham;2287791]it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm[/QUOTE]

oh you again brilliant

LlayDragon 31st August 2019 18.01:32

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287773]There seem to many posting about the inadequacies of the WST and Board - and a number of Posters appear to express a derogatory view about Spencer Harris and as part of that call for a change.

What I don’t understand, is if such individuals hold such a view why don’t they stand for election or nominate another person who might have superior capabilities as an alternative?

It is easy to highlight perceived issues with the current regime but the WST is democratic so why not forward the alternice solutions for Leadership that you have.

Names and CVs appreciated in reply[/QUOTE]

Not this bilge again.

Shit the bed.

CosmicCol 31st August 2019 18.02:21

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=Lods;2287794]As someone who think Harris has something to offer the club (certainly in a financial/branding way) I don't think "if you don't like it you do it" is a rational response.

Otherwise nobody could complain about anything.

"Wait my food's cold"
"Well go and cook it yourself then"

"I hate what my local MP is doing"
"Well you go and run for MP"

Etc.[/QUOTE]

That is true if you don’t own the institution you are complaining about -

‘Wait the food in MY restaurant is cold’

‘Moan to everyone else or take responsibility and propose a solution to resolve it’

El Jonez 31st August 2019 18.02:49

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2287778]So if you can't do a better job yourself you just have to accept what others are doing?

If you hire a builder who does a terrible job and your extension falls down you're not meant to complain?

The fans are asking for new leadership, from people who know about football. Spencer does a great job but should be relieved of footballing decisions.[/QUOTE]

I couldn’t agree more.

We all make mistakes in life, and since Ricketts slithered to the Slops, the WST Board have failed miserably with the appointments of Barrow, Newell and Hughes.

New manager with back room staff broom required immediately.

But before this, we really do need to bring in an experienced footballing man (Director of Football or equivalent). Since Horne left the club, we have gone backwards on the field.

sparky 31st August 2019 18.05:42

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=paddockgraham;2287791]it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm[/QUOTE]

And the village keeps looking........

Foxy 31st August 2019 18.08:10

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=sparky;2287807]And the village keeps looking........[/QUOTE]

The bloke is a disgrace. Absolute enemy of the club. Club-killer par excellence.

willyheckerslike 31st August 2019 18.08:39

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287790]Yes but having complained you either get the builder to sort it out or find a better one that is prepared to take the job on! Unless you know a better one who will take the job on what other options do you have ??[/QUOTE]

You get the selection of the builder right in the first instance.....that's what you do!

northwalian dragon 31st August 2019 18.10:37

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287790]Yes but having complained you either get the builder to sort it out or find a better one that is prepared to take the job on! Unless you know a better one who will take the job on what other options do you have ??[/QUOTE]

If I didn't know any other builders personally I'd use a magic new invention called the internet. As it turns out there would be loads of builders more than happy to take on the job. Within football there are many ways of contacting and communicating with other footballing people.

The fans are complaining because they don't have the powers to make these big decisions. In the same way that if I only rented my house and my extension fell down I'd have to contantly moan to my landlord to sort the mess out. I wouldn't have the power or ability to change anything

NedStarksGhost 31st August 2019 18.11:33

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=paddockgraham;2287791]it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm[/QUOTE]

As always, quality post that offers literally nothing. I hope we never see you comment on a match again. If you do, you're just going against your own op opinion.

And for what it's worth, don't demean other people's work. There's plenty of jobs that need doing and someone needs to do them. And don't use their jobs as a means to undermine opinions.

dixienormous 31st August 2019 18.14:25

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=paddockgraham;2287791]it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm[/QUOTE]

How are your six fingered racist friends? Still banned?

Jaded 31st August 2019 18.15:38

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=NedStarksGhost;2287815]As always, quality post that offers literally nothing. I hope we never see you comment on a match again. If you do, you're just going against your own op opinion.

And for what it's worth, don't demean other people's work. There's plenty of jobs that need doing and someone needs to do them. And don't use their jobs as a means to undermine opinions.[/QUOTE]

Has paddockgraham ever commented on a match? I thought he only ever came on here to criticise fans.

NedStarksGhost 31st August 2019 18.16:44

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=Jaded;2287822]Has paddockgraham ever commented on a match? I thought he only ever came on here to criticise fans.[/QUOTE]

Can't say I've seen him comment, aside from today's match, fair point. Not even sure why I replied to him. Should just ignore him so he will hopefully get bored and go away..

dixienormous 31st August 2019 18.18:03

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=Jaded;2287822]Has paddockgraham ever commented on a match? I thought he only ever came on here to criticise fans.[/QUOTE]

He's just part of a group of supporters who are slowly draining the life out of our club.

Captain Dread 31st August 2019 18.20:12

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287801]That is true if you don’t own the institution you are complaining about -

‘Wait the food in MY restaurant is cold’

‘Moan to everyone else or take responsibility and propose a solution to resolve it’[/QUOTE]

The 'club owner' thing is a brilliant way of trying to stop paying customers from having expectations.
When I give money to any other business I expect a level of professionalism in return.
No other business tries to make me feel like I am to blame for its shortcomings by pretending that I am a co-owner.
And as for proposing solutions, first the real club owners have to accept that there are issues which need to be solved.

Jaded 31st August 2019 18.22:45

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287801]That is true if you don’t own the institution you are complaining about -

‘Wait the food in MY restaurant is cold’

‘Moan to everyone else or take responsibility and propose a solution to resolve it’[/QUOTE]

The situation with the 2nd disabled platform doesn’t give people a lot of hope that change would happen even if people DID propose something and it was voted for, unfortunately.

dixienormous 31st August 2019 18.27:03

Re: New Leadership
 
They should do the right thing for the club and step down but they'll do what's right for them and that's staying in power killing the club. Things will get nasty soon if they don't.

GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo 31st August 2019 18.27:57

Re: New Leadership
 
A good start would be to replace both Bircham and Horne properly, it's been on a steady slide since then.

Not that everything was brilliant back then.

Birdy 31st August 2019 18.40:54

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=CosmicCol;2287773]There seem to many posting about the inadequacies of the WST and Board - and a number of Posters appear to express a derogatory view about Spencer Harris and as part of that call for a change.

What I don’t understand, is if such individuals hold such a view why don’t they stand for election or nominate another person who might have superior capabilities as an alternative?

It is easy to highlight perceived issues with the current regime but the WST is democratic so why not forward the alternice solutions for Leadership that you have.

Names and CVs appreciated in reply[/QUOTE]

Here come the spin doctors, so predictable. These guys are just as dangerous as the inept board.

Redpensioner 31st August 2019 18.46:31

Re: New Leadership
 
Even if the board stepped down is there a queue waiting to replace them, are their prominent people on here willing to step into there shoes.

woblob04 31st August 2019 18.47:40

Re: New Leadership
 
If we make Spencer Manager, can we sack him then?

Nothing against him personally, but if he had a boss, he would be sacked by now. I've defended them in the past as they volunteer their own time and lots of it.

There's no accountability at the club. We are run within our means and quite well because the fans turn up year after year. Despite each year being more of the same. I am frustrated but it's different now. By that I mean I am kind of apathetic when I watch us, as I've come to expect it. It used to be anger but it's not anymore.

I live an hour away from the ground the day costs me £40 an an ear ache off the missus. How can I justify it after performances like that today?

We are going to be in this league for another 20 years aren't we?

Just want to say... Oswell got paid for that... He get money in his pocket... For that.

Other fans are angry, and they have every right to be. If he sees out his contract, we will be playing in the Welsh Premier league, waiting for a big European night once a year and getting beaten 14-0 on aggregate and the second the game ends, we look forward to next year.

OneLoveWrexham 31st August 2019 18.49:22

Re: New Leadership
 
There’s a good chance he’s doing his coaching badges and will appoint himself manager like the mad man from Chester that time.

REDGOG 31st August 2019 18.55:08

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=paddockgraham;2287791]it makes you wonder we have so many fans with expert knowledge of the game why they never made it in the game and instead stick rivets into bits of metal all day or shovel shit down the farm[/QUOTE]


Yes, Or run the HR department at a local employer LOL

OH hang on :freak:

Red Light 31st August 2019 19.38:09

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=Redpensioner;2287849]Even if the board stepped down is there a queue waiting to replace them, are their prominent people on here willing to step into there shoes.[/QUOTE]

No - it wouldn't be easy to replace such dedicated people would it ?
Nothing is ever as simple as it might appear from the outside.

René Higuita 31st August 2019 19.57:21

Re: New Leadership
 
[QUOTE=woblob04;2287850]If we make Spencer Manager, can we sack him then?

Nothing against him personally, but if he had a boss, he would be sacked by now. I've defended them in the past as they volunteer their own time and lots of it.

There's no accountability at the club. We are run within our means and quite well because the fans turn up year after year. Despite each year being more of the same. I am frustrated but it's different now. By that I mean I am kind of apathetic when I watch us, as I've come to expect it. It used to be anger but it's not anymore.

I live an hour away from the ground the day costs me £40 an an ear ache off the missus. How can I justify it after performances like that today?

We are going to be in this league for another 20 years aren't we?

Just want to say... Oswell got paid for that... He get money in his pocket... For that.

Other fans are angry, and they have every right to be. If he sees out his contract, we will be playing in the Welsh Premier league, waiting for a big European night once a year and getting beaten 14-0 on aggregate and the second the game ends, we look forward to next year.[/QUOTE]

Well said. I have been travelling to and from Birmingham by train for the past 3 years to get to games and I am pretty much giving up now. I've spent so much money and time on watching continued failure. No doubt red poison can take the piss out of my commitment while he continues to bury his head in the sand.


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