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NedStarksGhost 15th September 2019 08.16:23

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Foxy;2293277]If the Board lose the majority of the only supporters they have left, that will probably leave them with less than five.[/QUOTE]

I said I'd have confidence in them if they hire someone as director of football. If they don't sack Hughes and Darlington now, then I take that back as well.

It's pretty obvious now what needs to be done. If they don't act, then as far as I'm concerned it's clearer than ever they just aren't up to the job, they're too stubborn and arrogant or just plain naive. Either way isn't good.

Prodigal Dragon 15th September 2019 08.22:19

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=NedStarksGhost;2293276]If the board act now and show intent I think that'll win a fair few the fans back again provided they have an overhaul of the management.

What's worrying me is they may (and probably will I think) take the stance of "stick with the manager" and come out with "we believe Hughes is the right man for the job". At which point, the board will lose the majority of people left who were giving them support.[/QUOTE]

I do not know the internal politics that many on here claim to know about.

What I am interested in is that the Board does its job. Sadly, for whatever reason, the players clearly do not believe in the BH and CD partnership, and we are going through the motions -- and doing that badly. I have some sympathy for them both but that sympathy has now run out. The survival of Wrexham AFC is paramount, hence BH and CD must be put on 'gardening leave' now, and the Board must ask someone who understands what is required of a football manager of our club to find 2 candidates for the Board to appoint their preferred option -- they must look at finances etc. The Board also needs to resolve how much pay-off BH and CD are entitled to.

Everybody f*cks up at some point. The Board did so after Ricketts left. What they must not do is prevaricate because they fear the consequences of sacking their latest appointment. The gross failure of duty will be if they fail to act quickly, decisively and with some dignity. It is their mess; they must clear it up now, before it is too late.:guitarist:

Inside Left 15th September 2019 08.37:22

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Prodigal Dragon;2293282]I do not know the internal politics that many on here claim to know about.

What I am interested in is that the Board does its job. Sadly, for whatever reason, the players clearly do not believe in the BH and CD partnership, and we are going through the motions -- and doing that badly. I have some sympathy for them both but that sympathy has now run out. The survival of Wrexham AFC is paramount, hence BH and CD must be put on 'gardening leave' now, and the Board must ask someone who understands what is required of a football manager of our club to find 2 candidates for the Board to appoint their preferred option -- they must look at finances etc. The Board also needs to resolve how much pay-off BH and CD are entitled to.

Everybody f*cks up at some point. The Board did so after Ricketts left. What they must not do is prevaricate because they fear the consequences of sacking their latest appointment. The gross failure of duty will be if they fail to act quickly, decisively and with some dignity. It is their mess; they must clear it up now, before it is too late.:guitarist:[/QUOTE]

Prodigal - If I am correct the team have 3 key games ahead against lowly opposition plus perhaps an FA cup match. I would think you might see a recovery once the board have business like words with the management - or - the writing is on the wall so to speak.

aussiejackoinsaudi 15th September 2019 08.38:43

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
I believe the board must have given Hughes and others contracts where there are cheap get out clauses. If not they're more stupid / naive than what I thought. The clear out should happen tomorrow. If not, relegation here we come.

Prodigal Dragon 15th September 2019 09.01:10

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Inside Left;2293290]Prodigal - If I am correct the team have 3 key games ahead against lowly opposition plus perhaps an FA cup match. I would think you might see a recovery once the board have business like words with the management - or - the writing is on the wall so to speak.[/QUOTE]

Before yesterday, I too thought the same but yesterday’s inept performance, plus the reaction of the crowd — lower gate and level of boos and chants — highlighted the plight we are in.

Unlike some, I do think we have more quality up front, but our lack of quality in the midfield has not been addressed.

I am sure BH is aware that his performance to date is unsatisfactory, and must improve substantially. But if the players do not believe in the manager and coaches — which seems to be so — then the game is up. One could argue that some senior players hold too much sway, but that is when a good, experienced manager uses his skills and weigh of personality to convince most players that he is the boss, and he has the solutions. BH seems unable to make that leap; hence he and CD become ineffective.

Finally, I do think the players need to shoulder some of the responsibility for where we are, but we cannot get rid of them and start again. Hence BH had a great opportunity in the summer to really get a grip of things but, by keeping 3 or 4 too many players he created his own cross to bear. BH might be a footballing genius, but his lack of experience and confidence has found him out before he had the opportunity to develop. Football is a tough business; without Lady Luck you struggle. And, sadly, she doesn’t like BH or Wrexham AFC at the moment!

redinsaudi 15th September 2019 09.08:28

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Connolly;2293275]Why didn’t you raise any of these concerns when your mate Gary Mills was pissing money up the wall?[/QUOTE]

He was no mate of mine but I wanted him here, that’s true. Turns out he did a shit job so we got rid of him. I didn’t raise concerns about underhanded buffoonery, countless managerial appointments without foundations and ego trips because it wasn’t happening then.

mold road trendy 15th September 2019 09.18:38

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Nibs;2292813]The whole lot should go. How can the happy clappers defend this boardxand management team now??? FFS[/QUOTE]

Spot on

thedischunter96 15th September 2019 09.20:00

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=Prodigal Dragon;2293282]I do not know the internal politics that many on here claim to know about.

What I am interested in is that the Board does its job. Sadly, for whatever reason, the players clearly do not believe in the BH and CD partnership, and we are going through the motions -- and doing that badly. I have some sympathy for them both but that sympathy has now run out. The survival of Wrexham AFC is paramount, hence BH and CD must be put on 'gardening leave' now, and the Board must ask someone who understands what is required of a football manager of our club to find 2 candidates for the Board to appoint their preferred option -- they must look at finances etc. The Board also needs to resolve how much pay-off BH and CD are entitled to.

Everybody f*cks up at some point. The Board did so after Ricketts left. What they must not do is prevaricate because they fear the consequences of sacking their latest appointment. The gross failure of duty will be if they fail to act quickly, decisively and with some dignity. It is their mess; they must clear it up now, before it is too late.:guitarist:[/QUOTE]

I agree with this. But say we lose/draw the next 3 league games and lose the FA Cup qualifier, is then that the right time to sack? Something tells me that the board will be looking to give BH more games before they make a decision. Sitting 19th in the table doesn't bode well with many fans. If it was me, I'd give him till the end of the month and if we are still in this same position, sack him.

mold road trendy 15th September 2019 09.23:08

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=neilwxm;2293197]Not defending anyone, but serious question, who will replace these people and how much will it cost us? Are we willing to cut the playing budget to have a Full Time CEO?[/QUOTE]

A fulltime COE should generate extra cash to compensate for his/her wage, that what professional people in that position should do, we don't have one but need one

Rob Edwards 15th September 2019 09.33:19

Re: Hughes and Harris out
 
[QUOTE=thedischunter96;2293333]I agree with this. But say we lose/draw the next 3 league games and lose the FA Cup qualifier, is then that the right time to sack? Something tells me that the board will be looking to give BH more games before they make a decision. Sitting 19th in the table doesn't bode well with many fans. If it was me, I'd give him till the end of the month and if we are still in this same position, sack him.[/QUOTE]
More often than not a new manager gets the proverbial good start.That could help us win the FA Cup qualifier which could potentially then generate additional receipts which would help cover the payoffs for the management team.A bit of a no-brainer really.


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