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Old 16th September 2019, 07.37:56   #1-0 (permalink)
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Not seen it done in the wrath of the board and manager posts.

Summed up by the 73rd minute chance for Summerfield.
Hit the F target from there

Ratings below 5 apart from Pearson and Carra.

Reaction WTF! Performances lead to results. Cant believe professional players dont understand this basic. As for the manager.
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Old 16th September 2019, 07.44:55   #2-0 (permalink)
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1st half was one of the worst I’ve ever watched - hardly attempted a forward pass but gave it away in central areas when we did.
Old 16th September 2019, 07.49:28   #3-0 (permalink)
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Carrington and Pearson were the most dependable players.

Our midfield trio were dreadful, which caused the 3 strikers to struggle badly.

Thought Grant did well, too. But I guess you do not like him.

All-in-all, it was a disjointed, pathetic response to a growing crisis.

BH is ultimately responsible for the football, but our players let him down badly; which makes me agree with those who claim he has lost their respect.

Hopefully that will be our nadir, but a managerial change without a Board change is not guaranteed to resolve our unwanted predicament.

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Old 16th September 2019, 07.59:27   #4-0 (permalink)
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One of the worst games of football I've ever seen.

Players have gone now, this lot are far better than what we're seeing at the moment, you don't go from last season where they were challenging at the top for the majority, a play off team to relegation fodder without serious goings on behind the scenes.

But as usual the only person at this football who is accountable is the manager so he'll pay the price all on his own whilst the untouchables remain in place to carry on with their ego trips.
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Old 16th September 2019, 08.06:22   #5-0 (permalink)
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Carrington and Pearson were the most dependable players.

Our midfield trio were dreadful, which caused the 3 strikers to struggle badly.

Thought Grant did well, too. But I guess you do not like him.

All-in-all, it was a disjointed, pathetic response to a growing crisis.

BH is ultimately responsible for the football, but our players let him down badly; which makes me agree with those who claim he has lost their respect.

Hopefully that will be our nadir, but a managerial change without a Board change is not guaranteed to resolve our unwanted predicament.

Chickens coming home to roost!
Thought Grant was one of the better players, at least trying to inject some effort and urgency into the game. Defence was generally OK.
Sutton set up well and slowed the game down but we were architects of our own downfall in lack of energy / pace in our play, poor passing and an overall lethargic display. Apart from the last ten minutes.
Watching match of the day, a number of sides are setting up in a similar pattern 4/2/3/1. and use the ball down the wings as an attacking outlet, the differences, apart from quality, are that these teams have midfielders who can pass and move effectively. Unfortunately we haven't got the midfield to help create chances and need to go back to the basics of 433 or 442 and get the best out of what we've got.
Old 16th September 2019, 08.10:00   #6-0 (permalink)
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My personal favourite from the match report;

The Wrexham players are obviously not scared of scoring ‘Goal of the Week’ contenders, as Grant attempted a Wayne Rooney-esk overhead kick, but he made no connection with the ball
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Old 16th September 2019, 08.14:44   #7-0 (permalink)
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The shooting again was appalling , only one on target was Grants left foot curler i think .
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Thought Grant was one of the better players, at least trying to inject some effort and urgency into the game. Defence was generally OK.
Sutton set up well and slowed the game down but we were architects of our own downfall in lack of energy / pace in our play, poor passing and an overall lethargic display. Apart from the last ten minutes.
Watching match of the day, a number of sides are setting up in a similar pattern 4/2/3/1. and use the ball down the wings as an attacking outlet, the differences, apart from quality, are that these teams have midfielders who can pass and move effectively. Unfortunately we haven't got the midfield to help create chances and need to go back to the basics of 433 or 442 and get the best out of what we've got.
Agree , 4231 is now very common at the top level because the players exist to do it. Strikers who can still operate whilst isolated, backed by number 10s and attacking midfielders who cam move intelligently and pass. Width is provided by high energy and athletic full backs who can get up and down.

At our level these players don’t exist and it is stupid to try these more sophisticated systems. 532 is more feasible but in itself this requires top notch wing backs and lots of defensive cover.

Hughes was daft to experiment pre season and then decide on 4321. He had a 433 which worked defensively and just required some tweaking and the addition of a few quality players in the right positions.

Moving forward a new manager needs to go back to bog standard basics, either with a 433 or more preferably 442 to avoid an isolated striker. He should try this
when everyone is fit

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Tollit, Barton, Young, Ruthers
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Agree , 4231 is now very common at the top level because the players exist to do it. Strikers who can still operate whilst isolated, backed by number 10s and attacking midfielders who cam move intelligently and pass. Width is provided by high energy and athletic full backs who can get up and down.

At our level these players don’t exist and it is stupid to try these more sophisticated systems. 532 is more feasible but in itself this requires top notch wing backs and lots of defensive cover.

Hughes was daft to experiment pre season and then decide on 4321. He had a 433 which worked defensively and just required some tweaking and the addition of a few quality players in the right positions.

Moving forward a new manager needs to go back to bog standard basics, either with a 433 or more preferably 442 to avoid an isolated striker. He should try this
when everyone is fit

Lain ton
Carrington, Lawlor, Pearson, Jennings
Tollit, Barton, Young, Ruthers
Hooper Harris
Very harsh on grant as I think he probably been our better performers this year
Old 16th September 2019, 08.31:01   #10-0 (permalink)
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Very harsh on grant as I think he probably been our better performers this year
Agreed, he was the only player that looked remotely like scoring on Sat and the same in many other games I have seen.

Tollitt and Harris were way off the pace on the weekend.
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