Ricketts and Darlington
 

Genuine question here for those in the know. When did Ricketts approach the board to relieve Darlington of his duties? I can't get my head around it

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Ricketts and later Barrow wanted Darlington out ... obviously wanted a first team coach full time and not just turn up when they want ..

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2294887]Ricketts and later Barrow wanted Darlington out ... obviously wanted a first team coach full time and not just turn up when they want ..[/QUOTE]

He was aware of the structure before he took the job though surely? When did he decide he wanted him out?

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Probably when he seen he wasn’t the tactical genius everyone thought he was

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Thought you didn't believe this even happened?

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I’m pretty sure at any normal club the manager can get rid of anyone on his coaching team by his own accord, no?

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2294887]Ricketts and later Barrow wanted Darlington out ... obviously wanted a first team coach full time and not just turn up when they want ..[/QUOTE]

Do you know this as fact?

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No idea when it happened but reliably informed that he did want him out.

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What I saw from the open training session in Portugal.

As they walked from the changing rooms to the training pitches Ricketts walked out on his own. Not socialising with the players, like a manager.

The players, Barrow, Darlington and the fitness coach all came on together chatting.

The fitness coach got them warmed up.

Darlington took the first drill. Which looked like a variation of playing through the thirds drill. Ricketts and Barrow had no input

Barrow then took a shooting drill on his own. A basic one you see at the start of a kids football match. Pass, lay off, shoot.

Then Ricketts did the final drill on his own., which was one winger, receiving the ball wide. Three strikers attacking the box, left, middle and centre. Which was actually executed in the match v Louletano for Fondops header.

My takeaways were -

Ricketts was the boss. I liked that, can't envisage Hughes being like that, whether thats good, bad or neither.

3 coaches doing 3 drills. Where they linked? And who was overseeing the whole thing. I didn't see how. It's not like one was the striking coach etc as the whole group took part in every drill. Also how would this work on a part time set up.

This may be of no value. But its what I saw

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[QUOTE=GarryOggy;2294889]He was aware of the structure before he took the job though surely? When did he decide he wanted him out?[/QUOTE]

When he realised he talked utter shite?

The proof is in the pudding and the pudding's tasted like shit since he's been here.

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[QUOTE=The Method Maws;2294897]What I saw from the open training session in Portugal.[/QUOTE]

But who blew all the balls up? :)

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[QUOTE=pagl;2294922]But who blew all the balls up? :)[/QUOTE]

Barrow, we let a few down as they got kicked off the pitch, just to keep him away from football matters :guitarist:

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Bobby grant told me that Ricketts wanted Darlington out,after spending ten minutes with Bobby the first thing you notice is that he does not think he should be making the footballing decisions.

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Ricketts would have taken the job as he would struggle to get a job in the top 5 divisions just like keates/Hughes and they do what they are told,possibly we have gone more attacking because the directors read these pages and realised the fans are starting to revolt against Wrexhams negative football.

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[QUOTE=GarryOggy;2294889]He was aware of the structure before he took the job though surely? When did he decide he wanted him out?[/QUOTE]

As early as October, around the time he asked for Barrow to be given a new contract.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2294963]As early as October, around the time he asked for Barrow to be given a new contract.[/QUOTE]

Ok but until then would you agree Ricketts was backed by the board? Experienced assistant hired, Jussi, Darlington already there, the psychologist guy, fitness bloke, scouts. When he left he said the new manager would have 200k to spend. What I am getting at rather than being undermined Ricketts was backed quite extensively.

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Darlington got Ricketts the job, what’s hard to grasp about that?

He’s hardly going to swan in, shake his hand and then sack him.

Ricketts was slowly lessening Darlingtons involvement which Darlington wasn’t too happy about.

Darlington belongs with the FAW organising classes, not on the training ground of a professional football club.

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[QUOTE=Answer Release;2294990]Darlington got Ricketts the job, what’s hard to grasp about that?

He’s hardly going to swan in, shake his hand and then sack him.

Ricketts was slowly lessening Darlingtons involvement which Darlington wasn’t too happy about.

Darlington belongs with the FAW organising classes, not on the training ground of a professional football club.[/QUOTE]

I bow to your knowledge being in the clique. The fact is Ricketts left the club that was top of the league for a team two divisions higher. The spin that it was because of 1 day Darlington is just that.

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[QUOTE=GarryOggy;2294986]Ok but until then would you agree Ricketts was backed by the board? Experienced assistant hired, Jussi, Darlington already there, the psychologist guy, fitness bloke, scouts. When he left he said the new manager would have 200k to spend. What I am getting at rather than being undermined Ricketts was backed quite extensively.[/QUOTE]

Nope, not one bit, Oswell got away because of an unwillingness to pay the money required, as did many other targets.

Allies of the board came on here making out Oswell wanted to remain part time only for him to move to Morcombe days later...

Jussi was working here for nothing and as a favour to Ricketts.

Ricketts was undermined, it's as simple as that, when Shrewsbury showed willing to pay the release clause he was simply told he could leave, no fight put up or anything. The board didn't even think Shrewsbury had the money, shows how much research they do.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2295006]Nope, not one bit, Oswell got away because of an unwillingness to pay the money required, as did many other targets.

Allies of the board came on here making out Oswell wanted to remain part time only for him to move to Morcombe days later...

Jussi was working here for nothing and as a favour to Ricketts.

Ricketts was undermined, it's as simple as that, when Shrewsbury showed willing to pay the release clause he was simply told he could leave, no fight put up or anything. The board didn't even think Shrewsbury had the money, shows how much research they do.[/QUOTE]

Didn’t put up a fight but promotion is worth around £600,000 in the short term never mind the long term. How the hell are we going to ever get promotion when we manage the club like a factory hiring Agency staff.

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[QUOTE=flintshirefan;2294887]Ricketts and later Barrow wanted Darlington out ... obviously wanted a first team coach full time and not just turn up when they want ..[/QUOTE]

and you know this ... how? heard it down the pub.. read it elsewhere on here or social media... have a "friend of a friend in the know who you can name" that told you? or just guessing ?

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[QUOTE=standman;2295007]Didn’t put up a fight but promotion is worth around £600,000 in the short term never mind the long term. How the hell are we going to ever get promotion when we manage the club like a factory hiring Agency staff.[/QUOTE]

Wasn't the yes man they thought he was is my guess, all about 'loyalty' Barrow went to Shrewsbury as soon as he could once Ricketts called during his tenure.

Thought they could hold Ricketts to ransom clearly, bunch of jokers. Nobody with any stature in the game will apply if Hughes leaves. A board member was bemoaning the fact it was difficult to get managers in with 10 games to go while sat in the play offs, well so they say, at a normal club I doubt it. Prehaps this is the problem, forcing things upon people, food for thought.

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Remember when folk said Barrow twatted Ricketts.....

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[QUOTE=Redordead;2295012]Remember when folk said Barrow twatted Ricketts.....[/QUOTE]

Here's another interesting point, I'm sure it was said Barrow offered to resign early January well before meet the manager - anyone able to confirm? - 6 months later he's at Shrewsbury. Sounds like a pretty standard contract - post-termination restrictions - normally they last 3 - 6 months. All a coincidence I'm sure...

Any longer than 6 months and it's deemed unreasonable in most industry leaving the club open to legal action.

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Wilkin and Morell both found new employment after similiar lengths of time out of the game.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2295006]Nope, not one bit, Oswell got away because of an unwillingness to pay the money required, as did many other targets.

Allies of the board came on here making out Oswell wanted to remain part time only for him to move to Morcombe days later...

Jussi was working here for nothing and as a favour to Ricketts.

Ricketts was undermined, it's as simple as that, when Shrewsbury showed willing to pay the release clause he was simply told he could leave, no fight put up or anything. The board didn't even think Shrewsbury had the money, shows how much research they do.[/QUOTE]

Bloody hell, you are bemoaning the fact that Oswell got away . He hasn't exactly torn any trees up since he's been here. " allies of the board " are regularly alleged on here - name and shame with evidence pr1ck

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[QUOTE=Colomiers Phoenix;2295029]Bloody hell, you are bemoaning the fact that Oswell got away . He hasn't exactly torn any trees up since he's been here. " allies of the board " are regularly alleged on here - name and shame with evidence pr1ck[/QUOTE]

That's not the point I'm making, we've certainly found one. What is it with the surname Hughes and all these dormant accounts on here that spring up to the defence of the board?

I'm all right, not going to spill the name on how one plys a WST boarder member with drink at away games, latched to him at all times. Plus many more I know about.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2295032]That's not the point I'm making, we've certainly found one. What is it with the surname Hughes and all these dormant accounts on here that spring up to the defence of the board?

I'm all right, not going to spill the name on how one plys a WST boarder member with drink at away games, latched to him at all times. Plus many more I know about.[/QUOTE]
They’re all popping up, it’s his shift tonight there’s no doubt a rota has been set up.

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[QUOTE=OneLoveWrexham;2295036]They’re all popping up, it’s his shift tonight there’s no doubt a rota has been set up.[/QUOTE]

Purely coincidental. Obviously.
;)

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[QUOTE=OneLoveWrexham;2295036]They’re all popping up, it’s his shift tonight there’s no doubt a rota has been set up.[/QUOTE]

Must have started his shift for Airbus over in Toulouse. :hurray:

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[QUOTE=Lets Av A Riot;2295010]and you know this ... how? heard it down the pub.. read it elsewhere on here or social media... have a "friend of a friend in the know who you can name" that told you? or just guessing ?[/QUOTE]

Just stating a fact and yes I do know

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[QUOTE=Redordead;2295012]Remember when folk said Barrow twatted Ricketts.....[/QUOTE]

Yes at the training ground, probably saying You better take me with you yer b*******’.

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[QUOTE=OneLoveWrexham;2295036]They’re all popping up, it’s his shift tonight there’s no doubt a rota has been set up.[/QUOTE]

They really should stop drinking the home made ale in the village. He will end up getting banned, again.

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[QUOTE=GiggityGiggityGiggityGoo;2295006]Nope, not one bit, Oswell got away because of an unwillingness to pay the money required, as did many other targets.

Allies of the board came on here making out Oswell wanted to remain part time only for him to move to Morcombe days later...

Jussi was working here for nothing and as a favour to Ricketts.

Ricketts was undermined, it's as simple as that, when Shrewsbury showed willing to pay the release clause he was simply told he could leave, no fight put up or anything. The board didn't even think Shrewsbury had the money, shows how much research they do.[/QUOTE]

So if Darlington was sacked and he had his full time coach to pump the balls up because it was beneath Barrow he would have turned down Shrewsbury?

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GGGG, How did Oswell get away if we signed him in Jan?
He hasn’t made much of an impression anyway IMO but opinion is divided as Pearson appeared to want him in the team with his comment about winning the 1st ball and not 2nd ball unless I got the wrong drift from him.
Some reports say he didn’t win a header yet some say he won most of them!
Will need to watch it again - ohhhhh the thought. Wont help with recovery at all.

I like most of your posts and you have info that is interesting but not sure what’s being said here.

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[QUOTE=pagl;2295065]GGGG, How did Oswell get away if we signed him in Jan?
He hasn’t made much of an impression anyway IMO but opinion is divided as Pearson appeared to want him in the team with his comment about winning the 1st ball and not 2nd ball unless I got the wrong drift from him.
Some reports say he didn’t win a header yet some say he won most of them!
Will need to watch it again - ohhhhh the thought. Wont help with recovery at all.

I like most of your posts and you have info that is interesting but not sure what’s being said here.[/QUOTE]

Harris was getting long balls hoofed up to him all game until Oswell came on. Oswell should have started if that was the tactics. Hughes said in the post match conference that we started going long when Oswell came on! He had more joy than Harris.

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I don't care what anyone says about Ricketts. He was a fantastic appointment and had us top of the league before he left. I have no doubt that if he stayed we would of won the league. I think Ricketts didn't utilise Darlington at all. He knew what he wanted and Darlington wasn't apart of that.

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[QUOTE=sparky;2295057]They really should stop drinking the home made ale in the village. He will end up getting banned, again.[/QUOTE]

What was his last username again?

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Ricketts looked the part and was a good appointment. Darlington and the former 'lager club clique' on a so called board are the nub of the problem at this club! Harris, Mills and Jones - the fingers are pointing at you!

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[QUOTE=pagl;2295065]GGGG, How did Oswell get away if we signed him in Jan?
He hasn’t made much of an impression anyway IMO but opinion is divided as Pearson appeared to want him in the team with his comment about winning the 1st ball and not 2nd ball unless I got the wrong drift from him.
Some reports say he didn’t win a header yet some say he won most of them!
Will need to watch it again - ohhhhh the thought. Wont help with recovery at all.

I like most of your posts and you have info that is interesting but not sure what’s being said here.[/QUOTE]

Wanted him in the summer rather than January, missed out and the spin machine started up again. Basically despite it being common knowledge to a lot of people he apparently didn't want to go full time.

What he's done or not done has nothing to do with the point I was making. :)