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Old 9th October 2019, 09.09:25   #41-0 (permalink)
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I am afraid a large percentage would tick at least one of those boxes with the egotist one way out in front.

For arguments sake lets look at what criteria we would want from a private owner. Worth at least 50 million cash and prepared to put at least 5 million in to the club over an extended period. A Wrexham supporter who lives locally, does not have a problem ego and has a good knowledge of the football industry.

Only a few of the privately owned 92 league Clubs have a decent owner. For my money these would be Liverpool, Norwich, Middlesboro, Rochdale, Accrington and maybe Fleetwood and Bristol City. A lot of those are long term supporters of the club they own. Please feel free to add to the list.
Forgot Burton Albion !
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What there forum is saying though...an interesting 4 pages so far:

https://gasroom.org/discussion/5193/...vestment-story
Looking at that it is obvious they are desperate. Have even borrowed 600k from the potential new owner before the take over is voted on. Lost 700k last season and cash flow problems about to put them in admin before the 600k loan.Also owe large sum to the previous bid that fell through, two dodgy Americans.

Just think if certain people get their way this could be us
Old 9th October 2019, 09.38:37   #43-0 (permalink)
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I understand why some want private ownership but just inviting any conman, crook or egotist to buy the club can not be a sensible way forward can it ?
Quote me where any Wrexham fan has ever said that?
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Old 9th October 2019, 11.11:58   #44-0 (permalink)
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Quote me where any Wrexham fan has ever said that?
A lot have posts on here have suggested that the club is put up for sale. If that happens there will be plenty of interest from a number of parties you would not want near any football club.

Even if you want private ownership surely you want someone or a group of people to approach the club who want to be involved with Wrexham AFC because they support the club ? And you would want them to fulfill certain criteria ? Or are you happy to have a non supporter/s who may or may not have money?

If such people exist they will come forward without being asked imo.
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A lot have posts on here have suggested that the club is put up for sale. If that happens there will be plenty of interest from a number of parties you would not want near any football club.

Even if you want private ownership surely you want someone or a group of people to approach the club who want to be involved with Wrexham AFC because they support the club ? And you would want them to fulfill certain criteria ? Or are you happy to have a non supporter/s who may or may not have money?

If such people exist they will come forward without being asked imo.
So no fan has ever said that then.

Your first paragraph is total speculation based on our past and based on scaremongering and paranoia.

People have come forward and approached the club only to be met with resistance and/or ridiculous terms that they know full well no one in their right mind would ever agree to. Its a sneaky cowardly way of putting people off without having the balls to actually come out and say it to the fan base. I mean some fans are that paranoid still they don't even trust Bryn Law. Whatever your opinion of him he's without doubt a big Wrexham fan.

If the club is put up for sale it would be the duty of the WST to ensure its sold to the right person/people. They do not have to be lifelong Wrexham fans, the people who run the club now are (bar one Utd fan) lifelong fans and under their direction we achieved nothing as a club in over 8 years and are currently at the wrong end of the league table, so that argument is flawed. We've gone backwards under the WST ownership. See league table for proof.

Fans want the club put up for sale mainly because they want success and we're miles away from that. You can scaremonger all you want but the fact remains fan ownership isn't working so other options need to be looked at.
Keep doing the same things and expect the same results. Over 8 years worth of that now and for some the penny still hasn't dropped. You wonder what it would take, relegation?
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the paranoia of many of our fans is what will keep the current status quo in place, it is understandable why some are apprehensive of private ownership but our best periods have been under private ownership, it was not all roses, no, but the best years this club ever saw, highs and lows, for a long time now we have been flat lining, mediocracy, but mediocracy in non league, we are now regarded as a non league outfit, this ownership model is in survival mode only, it is being run like a domestic economics exercise and not a viable business with a growth structure, the fans base has grown but not the speculation from those in charge, other teams that are ex league have come down, reorganised and made it back into the league while we linger in stagnation, the paranoia (understandable but now obsolete) is one of the causes of our mediocracy, we need a business man, or woman who is strong enough to guide a business to success, leave things as they are and this time next year we will be contemplating the prospect of another lost season in the wilderness, accept the obvious or decline/stagnate

Brilliant post --- I've said it for a long time we are run like a corner shop with Arkwrights Till....no ambition to expand. And we are so scared of our past we are scared to admit fan ownership is not the way forward, we need to go the Swansea way..

Look at Tranmere with a proper manager and now getting outside investment from Asia because money is needed to improve.

We are no better than the likes of Connahs Quay really just a permanent non league level.

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A lot have posts on here have suggested that the club is put up for sale. If that happens there will be plenty of interest from a number of parties you would not want near any football club.

Even if you want private ownership surely you want someone or a group of people to approach the club who want to be involved with Wrexham AFC because they support the club ? And you would want them to fulfill certain criteria ? Or are you happy to have a non supporter/s who may or may not have money?

If such people exist they will come forward without being asked imo.
I disagree. the club is fan owned and very proud of that fact.

There is a process which involves many hoops to jump through if you want to put money in. I understand the reasons for this, but the only mention of investment the trust ever makes is in setting out these conditions. In my view this is to put off investors , but even if its not, there is nothing that the WST have said to encourage approaches, or to say approaches are welcome. Expecting people to come forward and force the club to accept their money is unrealistic.

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Old 9th October 2019, 12.26:35   #48-0 (permalink)
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A lot have posts on here have suggested that the club is put up for sale. If that happens there will be plenty of interest from a number of parties you would not want near any football club.
And there would also be plenty on interest from parties who you would want at the club. Well you would if you want what's best for the club.
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Maybe he has more sense and better judgement ?

It could be that Wycombe have debts too large for the supporters to cope with and their Trust has decided to bail out rather than oversee the demise of the club.They did inherit a club on the verge of collapse from previous private owners. Looking at who they have got as the new owner they are clearly very desperate.

I understand why some want private ownership but just inviting any conman, crook or egotist to buy the club can not be a sensible way forward can it ?
Our problem, and will kill the club, right there.
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A lot have posts on here have suggested that the club is put up for sale. If that happens there will be plenty of interest from a number of parties you would not want near any football club.

Even if you want private ownership surely you want someone or a group of people to approach the club who want to be involved with Wrexham AFC because they support the club ? And you would want them to fulfill certain criteria ? Or are you happy to have a non supporter/s who may or may not have money?

If such people exist they will come forward without being asked imo.
Some already have.
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