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Old 9th October 2019, 17.08:42   #61-0 (permalink)
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the paranoia of many of our fans is what will keep the current status quo in place, it is understandable why some are apprehensive of private ownership but our best periods have been under private ownership, it was not all roses, no, but the best years this club ever saw, highs and lows, for a long time now we have been flat lining, mediocracy, but mediocracy in non league, we are now regarded as a non league outfit, this ownership model is in survival mode only, it is being run like a domestic economics exercise and not a viable business with a growth structure, the fans base has grown but not the speculation from those in charge, other teams that are ex league have come down, reorganised and made it back into the league while we linger in stagnation, the paranoia (understandable but now obsolete) is one of the causes of our mediocracy, we need a business man, or woman who is strong enough to guide a business to success, leave things as they are and this time next year we will be contemplating the prospect of another lost season in the wilderness, accept the obvious or decline/stagnate
Football has moved on since our best days and since then we have lost our ground and training ground. How much money did Pryce Griffiths put in ?

Orient and Tranmere have gone back up but the list of those in a similar position to us or worse is much longer. Chesterfield, Aldershot, Stockport, York City, Hartlepool, Hereford, Darlington, Notts County, Chester, Torquay, Halifax or if you go back further Workington, Barrow and Southport. God knows where Bury will be next season.

The current business model for most club owners is simple. Spend large amounts of unsustainable money to bring success in the short term if things go well. Load debt on to the club and the sell to someone else. This process is then repeated until the club goes pop or loses its ground like Coventry or us.

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Football has moved on since our best days and since then we have lost our ground and training ground. How much money did Pryce Griffiths put in ?

Orient and Tranmere have gone back up but the list of those in a similar position to us or worse is much longer. Chesterfield, Aldershot, Stockport, York City, Hartlepool, Hereford, Darlington, Notts County, Chester, Torquay, Halifax or if you go back further Workington, Barrow and Southport. God knows where Bury will be next season.

The current business model for most club owners is simple. Spend large amounts of unsustainable money to bring success in the short term if things go well. Load debt on to the club and the sell to someone else. This process is then repeated until the club goes pop or loses its ground like Coventry or us.
A more pertinent question could be, how much did Pryce and others take out?
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A more pertinent question could be, how much did Pryce and others take out?
Indeed.

Why do we still have fans who do not know their history?
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Indeed.

Why do we still have fans who do not know their history?
Jesus, really?
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Football has moved on since our best days and since then we have lost our ground and training ground. How much money did Pryce Griffiths put in ?

Orient and Tranmere have gone back up but the list of those in a similar position to us or worse is much longer. Chesterfield, Aldershot, Stockport, York City, Hartlepool, Hereford, Darlington, Notts County, Chester, Torquay, Halifax or if you go back further Workington, Barrow and Southport. God knows where Bury will be next season.

The current business model for most club owners is simple. Spend large amounts of unsustainable money to bring success in the short term if things go well. Load debt on to the club and the sell to someone else. This process is then repeated until the club goes pop or loses its ground like Coventry or us.
It is, but it doesn't have to be here. It would be up to the board to ensure that the club is protected. As you say we've got nothing left to take asset-wise, there's no quick-buck to make.

However the club is openly obstructive to investment, and leaky as a teabag regarding information. Any prospective investor would be made to engage with it.

In addition to this many fans have lost faith with the board, for many reason not just results on the pitch. We've had football fortune (and possibly spent it) with liitle prospect of anymore in the near future. Fans have started to drift-away and we're in our worst position since relegation.

Our prospects are bleak, but that doesn't mean throwing fan-ownership (in theory rather than practice at this time) in the bin. However those with a total grip on power are loath to the prospect of any type of evolution.
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Football has moved on since our best days and since then we have lost our ground and training ground. How much money did Pryce Griffiths put in ?

Orient and Tranmere have gone back up but the list of those in a similar position to us or worse is much longer. Chesterfield, Aldershot, Stockport, York City, Hartlepool, Hereford, Darlington, Notts County, Chester, Torquay, Halifax or if you go back further Workington, Barrow and Southport. God knows where Bury will be next season.

The current business model for most club owners is simple. Spend large amounts of unsustainable money to bring success in the short term if things go well. Load debt on to the club and the sell to someone else. This process is then repeated until the club goes pop or loses its ground like Coventry or us.
Aldershot, Stockport, Hartlepool, Notts County, Torquay, Halifax and Barrow are above and better of than us at the moment or have you missed the current table. York and Chester could join that list next season.

Aldershot despite a rescinded relegation, Stockport after a few years in NLN, Torquay in NLS. There are a few more than Orient and Tranmere that have gone back up.

The football board have made poor decisions due to their total lack of knowledge and experience. In fact they struggle to fulfill the role they should be doing.

Is the Infrastructure acceptable with dirty toilets, the state of Jonsey's bar and disabled platform 2. Club membership still an admin nightmare and so it goes on. Only finance is under control at the moment but in the current position this is being jeopardised for next season.

Does anyone think SH is going to deliver Kop regeneration either?
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I meant are we really banging on about the past when we serously need to look forward?
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I meant are we really banging on about the past when we serously need to look forward?
But it is about looking forward. If we're looking for investment going forward, we need to be asking questions based on past experience. Or shall we just let them get on with it, no questions asked?
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