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Old 8th October 2019, 11.40:23   #51-0 (permalink)
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Listen to the interview again... he did say no. Keep up.
It beggars belief the amount of people on this thread that haven't got the brains to actually listen and watch the press conference before agreeing with a post that's got its facts wrong.
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Old 8th October 2019, 11.41:38   #52-0 (permalink)
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I think when people talked about 'a football man' they were probably thinking he would have had experience of the professional game within the last 20 years?

Using McNeil looks like lipservice, and a very cynical attempt to lay any future problems at someone else's door.

As for Davies people will be remembering the team's performances with him as caretaker. The players shafted him and us. That doesn't strike me as someone players value or respect. Let's also not forget that along with Keates he failed in the same role at Walsall.

It's not the same issue but do you think fans would welcome Newell back? He was full-time?

Me neither.

As for board members not appearing, well they've been there for every other manager press event since WST took over. Why is this appointment so special?
Bryan Hughes sat there alone. Bottled that one too.
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Old 8th October 2019, 11.48:59   #53-0 (permalink)
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People wanted a football man to appoint the manager so Dixie led the process and not Spencer.

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Do you think Dixie is lying when he said he didn’t lead the process?
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You were not around in the 80s. Didn’t he play in goal or am I thinking about Bobby Roberts
Roberts played himself in goal, though dixie did bring himself off the bench in one game I remember.
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I’d be shocked if this so called “process” didn’t consist of Harris or Mills simply texting Keates to see if he was interested (before Hughes even went no doubt).

McNeil a “football man” just because he played here 40 years ago. Ok. He’s been used here and if he can’t see it then that’s his own fault. Maybe those complimentary match days are too good to give up.
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Let's just concentrate all our efforts in supporting the manager and the team in leading us up the table. These rants against the board in some cases are justified, however they seem to have become an obsession with some. The place to sort things out are at an AGM or EGM where we can have our say in an official capacity.
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I’d be shocked if this so called “process” didn’t consist of Harris or Mills simply texting Keates to see if he was interested (before Hughes even went no doubt).

McNeil a “football man” just because he played here 40 years ago. Ok. He’s been used here and if he can’t see it then that’s his own fault. Maybe those complimentary match days are too good to give up.
You have to be pretty daft to think that bringing in a guy who has been out of football in any capacity for 20 odd years is going to appease those wanting someone with football knowledge to help make these decisions.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Every week this board produce a face palm moment.
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RP has become a snake pit and home to an unbalanced discourse IMO.
Why the deep and bitter loathing of Keates? Hadn’t he got us into a playoff position? That’s why Walsall came calling. Ditto with Ricketts and Shrewsbury. How are these examples of constantly running a defective manager selection process. OK, you can quote the opaque BH selection and other blips but let’s have some balance. And resorting to denigrating Dixie, just as another legend Arfon has been in the past on these pages, because they worked with the Board, is out of order in my book.

Re Keates, if anyone was offered a doubling/tripling of wage/salary, would they not take it. Turning down the opportunity to progress professionally and refusing the money would be irrational. The only thing which might make a difference would be family factors. Did the Cowleys turn down Lincoln, and then Huddersfield? Did any manager turn down such opportunities? Would we?
I haven’t got time to micromonitor what the Board does. And maybe I am missing something on the relationship between the Board and the Trust. However, I take the long view. What I know is that pre-2011, the Trust over a long period had the sense to raise and save half a million pounds in anticipation of a supporters’ take-over. Without the Trust’s foresight there would be no Club.

I know also that the Trust guided us through a hugely complex take-over and transition as a result of a collection of hugely competent individuals giving their time and range of expertise for free; and that since 2011, the club with the financial support of the Trust membership, has been put onto a viable and sustainable commercial footing. And this without the huge subsidies that the local Mr Bigs (some business men are genuine and caring of their clubs but there are many chancers) or the Class of 92. Those business men subsidies are simply not available to us. Look next door to Chester to see the counter scenario with both failed private and supporter ownership ownership.
As for on the pitch this season, look at what happens when a more attacking approach coincides with two (GK, CF) out of three key players (GK, CF, CB) being long term injured.

I am one of these who don’t like the abuse on here nor the foul-mouthed chanting from the terraces, at its worst when we had a thousand kids in for the Sutton game. Keep the vile one-liner abuse off-line.
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Board are damed if they show up “look at arrogance appointing a manager fans didn’t want”

Damed if they don’t show up “board couldn’t even face the fans” “bet they couldn’t get time off work”

People wanted a football man to appoint the manager so Dixie led the process and not Spencer.

People wanted a full time assistant manager (rightly so) we get Andy Davies back and people are fuming.

I don’t agree with the board decisions over the last 12 months but they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t.
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Fair point, the board were never going to come out good in all this. First for the cockups in the past 10months and for then appointing an unpopular manager. I think they stayed away to keep the focus just on deans appointment rather than the meeting getting sidetracked.

The board worded in the statement that Dixie headed the decision to appoint Keates which he clearly denies. The board were obviously trying to sugarcoat the appointment, however Dixie did confirm he was one of three who took the interview and also agreed that keates was the best man for the job. When you sum it all up with budgets and who’s available right now, maybe Keates was the best for the role. Hard to take for some and certainly wouldn’t have been my choice but we might as well get behind the team regardless. I agree that the EGM or AGM is the place to get changes made rather than protesting at the ground. (At this stage at least).
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Roberts played himself in goal, though dixie did bring himself off the bench in one game I remember.
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