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Old 8th October 2019, 11.23:26   #31-0 (permalink)
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Not sure which thread to post this in and didn't want to start yet another new one.

My take on things:

Keates - objectively sensible appointment but may have wished to look elsewhere as clear he was going to be divisive

Davies - not impressed by him when he was manager but if you appoint Keates you have to let him work with who he feels best. Good that he is FT not PT.

DSA - All a bit of a sorry episode, wish they'd have resolved it in a non-public way. Club seem more at fault from what I've read but DSA could have done things to de-escalate.

Press conference - agree it was all a bit weird and uncomfortable. Not good Dixie verbally contradicted the statement and that Keates had to announce Flynn departure and Davies arrival.

That's my views out of the way, how how do we constructively resolve this mess? Getting more and more angry at the board and each other won't help our club flourish. Other than resign/sack Keates immediately what can the board realistically start doing to build bridges?

I am happy to email them with a summary of your suggestions but like Brexit the toxic polarised round and round debate and vitriol is depressing and unhelpful.
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The WST surely only need 1 person to sit on the WAFC board to keep an eye on things. If that person is seen to be not keeping an eye then it was the wrong appointment. People at board level have to take responsibility for the roles they were appointed for. Why does it need the majority to be from the WST board ? No point in having a separate WAFC board is there. If 5th tier is the exciting times then the WST need to come clean.

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Old 8th October 2019, 11.29:15   #33-0 (permalink)
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I agree totally. People in paid positions also need to be more accountable. Stadium Manager is an obvious person to point the finger at.

Think having a lifespan is also important. The WST has had different people in charge at different times to do different jobs.

For me a good example is P.Salmon who does all of the maintenance and will have saved us a ridiculous amount of money, I am certain. We need to be in a position where we are not relying on that. It is not sustainable. And he's someone I know little about as a fan but have been impressed by and absolutely appreciate he will have saved us huge amounts of money over the years. He SHOULD be paid for those services and if we can't afford it then we need to know.

For the record, he is someone I have no issue with whatsoever being on the club board.

Good post -- For me the writing was on the wall when Bircham and Horne left although reason given was to concentrate on their new Fat Boar business I think that was a smokescreen regarding bigger problems and these 2 have not been replaced.

We have taken back a failed manager and his staff.. Look at the difference between him and Ricketts who is now doing well at Shrewsbury.
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As I recall, there was a motion at a recent AGM to make AFC Board members elected by the members. This was defeated.
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Then you need a motion to change the constitution and that would require a 75% approval.

Currently the constitution allows for a majority representation from the WST.
This is incorrect, a two thirds majority is required in order to change the constitution.
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This is incorrect, a two thirds majority is required in order to change the constitution.
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I would refer you to the WST rules.
Section 50.1.1Any resolution to change the Society's rules and Section 51. a 75% majority is required as it's considered and Extraordinary resolution.

Also to ensure that it's clear - section 28.3 requires a minimum of 3 members of the trust board to be nominated for the club board.
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That’s not correct, a director can be removed from their position by a proposal at an AGM or SGM.
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Which is probably why they dont want any meetings to happen
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I would refer you to the WST rules.
Section 50.1.1Any resolution to change the Society's rules and Section 51. a 75% majority is required as it's considered and Extraordinary resolution.

Also to ensure that it's clear - section 28.3 requires a minimum of 3 members of the trust board to be nominated for the club board.
Nominated but not appointed.
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Which is probably why they dont want any meetings to happen
Of course they can be removed from the Trust Board and therefore from the club board.
Any resolution would have to ensure that the members, if deselected could not be seconded onto the club board. not sure how that fits in with the rules though.
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Nominated but not appointed.
In this case the difference being?
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