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Old 9th October 2019, 11.09:56   #31-0 (permalink)
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What on earth has he got to apologise for?
Agree, For goodness sake let's all move on. The past is gone!!
Old 9th October 2019, 11.27:47   #32-0 (permalink)
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I don't have a problem with him leaving to better himself,
But I don't think we should have appointed him as manager because I think their are better managers outthere, (I don't know who applied) he was the easiest option.
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Old 9th October 2019, 11.37:49   #33-0 (permalink)
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Can someone explain how the fck Darlington is still at the club?
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Old 9th October 2019, 11.42:41   #34-0 (permalink)
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Can someone explain how the fck Darlington is still at the club?

Easy to explain Keates brought him back here when he first got the job and he also wanted him at Walsall. It's the same lot a poor goalkeeper coach a PE teacher as assistant and Keates.
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Old 9th October 2019, 11.43:05   #35-0 (permalink)
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I do not agree on the appointment for a number of reasons;
  • His lack of success as a manager
  • His boring tactics
  • Can't think of a manager that has returned to a club and been successful. There's not many.
  • Questions over his loyalty

I hope I am proven wrong and I will get behind him. It's just that we can remember the negative, boring football that was played last time he managed us. We pay good money and expect to be entertained. It's not felt like that for a long time.
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Old 9th October 2019, 11.50:07   #36-0 (permalink)
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I do not agree on the appointment for a number of reasons;
  • His lack of success as a manager
  • His boring tactics
  • Can't think of a manager that has returned to a club and been successful. There's not many.
  • Questions over his loyalty

I hope I am proven wrong and I will get behind him. It's just that we can remember the negative, boring football that was played last time he managed us. We pay good money and expect to be entertained. It's not felt like that for a long time.


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Old 9th October 2019, 12.20:53   #37-0 (permalink)
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Can someone explain how the fck Darlington is still at the club?
I spoke to a person at the game last night who was at the first training session. He told me Keates basically told the players if they're not prepared to give a 100% at all times they would be out of the door, this was said in no uncertain terms. He also told me Darlo was there, but not involved at all in the training session, and never has been under Dean Keates.
During his first spell at the club I know for a fact Keates brought Darlo in to look after the stats and to give the players individual training programmes etc
I think this could well be the case and I can live with that.

Keates would have been the last person to get the job if I had a say, but he's here now, he did well last time and I don't blame him for leaving us to join his hometown club, two leagues above and probably trebling his wages.

I've just had enough of this arrogant board. They've failed, it's as simple as that and they should step down, the club needs a huge change of direction whether that's a slight change to the ownership structure or selling the club to the best possible candidate. Under these clowns we will never know if there are people out there. Please, just go ffs.
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Old 9th October 2019, 12.30:03   #38-0 (permalink)
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I spoke to a person at the game last night who was at the first training session. He told me Keates basically told the players if they're not prepared to give a 100% at all times they would be out of the door, this was said in no uncertain terms. He also told me Darlo was there, but not involved at all in the training session, and never has been under Dean Keates.
During his first spell at the club I know for a fact Keates brought Darlo in to look after the stats and to give the players individual training programmes etc
I think this could well be the case and I can live with that.

Keates would have been the last person to get the job if I had a say, but he's here now, he did well last time and I don't blame him for leaving us to join his hometown club, two leagues above and probably trebling his wages.

I've just had enough of this arrogant board. They've failed, it's as simple as that and they should step down, the club needs a huge change of direction whether that's a slight change to the ownership structure or selling the club to the best possible candidate. Under these clowns we will never know if there are people out there. Please, just go ffs.
Cheers. If Darlington has been removed from training then that's good news, clearly his coaching skills are a myth that's been well and truly put to bed now.

Its good to hear DK laying down the law too. Any January departures could be an interesting insight as to which players were/are rogue.
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Old 9th October 2019, 12.35:30   #39-0 (permalink)
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The Board surely realised how stupid they looked, having to sack Hughes. Then in their wisdom turned straightaway to Keates.. Padding it out, that they were looking for the best candidate.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Lady Luck smiles down on him, and he's successful here. He does seem to have the knack of being in the right place at the right time. Well at Wrexham he does anyway.
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I do not agree on the appointment for a number of reasons;
  • His lack of success as a manager
  • His boring tactics
  • Can't think of a manager that has returned to a club and been successful. There's not many.
  • Questions over his loyalty

I hope I am proven wrong and I will get behind him. It's just that we can remember the negative, boring football that was played last time he managed us. We pay good money and expect to be entertained. It's not felt like that for a long time.

As much as i disagree with his appointment i can see some degree of logic

Regarding lack of managerial success, had he not left i believe he would have achieved a 3rd place finish in his first full season

His tactics are boring but see last comment and also the goals scored against us that season. He would have probably delivered a midfield the folllwing season and added attacking options.

Returning managers... Disagree, mickey mellon for one.

Loyalty... There isnt any in football. Understand why he left, he acknowledges his return is a sensitive issue. Board need to hold steady on any potential contract extension until summer. He needs to earn it. I would argue a finish of 10th place is achievable.
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