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Old 8th October 2019, 23.09:15   #1-0 (permalink)
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Default Would an apology from Dean Keates ease tensions?

I had this debate before the match tonight and I'd love for some more opinions

In Keates' unveiling interview he states things like:

"it's in the past, it's behind us"
"what's happened in the past is in the past"
"I don't want to speak too much previously"
"What's happened has happened"

Plus an interesting quote from Dixie who said that Keates had stated in his interview that "He didn't really walk out on the football club"

To me it is disrespectful and arrogant of him to take the viewpoint that the fans should just forget the way in which he walked out given everything the club and the fans had done for him.

He was club captain for 5 years, knew first hand the pain of Wrexham fans being out of the football league, never managed to finish the job as a player, was well paid during his last years of his career, was able to play and study his coaching degree through the scheme the club put on, the club funded said degree, the club gave him his first big break in management, they provided him with full support, they provided him with an increased budget for an inexperienced manager such was the trust they showed him, the fans raised over £100,000 out of their own pockets through a scheme the fans divised due to the trust they had in him

He left with weeks to go having not completed a full season as manager.

Many fans do not welcome him back, but how many would feel less anger towards him should he publically apologise to supporters?

He would certainly have more backing from me if he were to apologise. I don't believe in giving second chances for the sake of the saying. If someone is man enough to admit to their mistakes, admit they were wrong and apologise it would go a long way to ease tensions in my opinion. Keates's first interview back at Wrexham showed no ounce of regret or sympathy towards Wrexham fans, hopefully that is quickly resolved.

What are your thoughts?

Would an apology repair some of the damage?

Do you think Keates would be willing to give one?
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No and nor should he, itís a business at the end of the day.

An apology from the board for their conduct recently wouldnít go amiss though.
Old 8th October 2019, 23.26:35   #3-0 (permalink)
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Default Re: Would an apology from Dean Keates ease tensions?

I think the article in the Shropshire Star was bordering on an apology !

I have always said , its what he will say and do that will define his second tenure
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Default Re: Would an apology from Dean Keates ease tensions?

An apology for the players, his lack of subs, his negative tactics, his appointment of CD and AD would go further.
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Sorry, but why should he apologise?

He was offered a job 2 levels higher, at his boyhood club and no doubt on significantly more money. We're a non league club ffs.
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If I went to a different job on double pay, and it didn’t work out so I went back to my old job then I wouldn’t apologise nor would anyone else.
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No, and i think it would create a weird dynamic. I dont really think he did much wrong... Look higher for the people who should be apologising
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Default Re: Would an apology from Dean Keates ease tensions?

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No and nor should he, itís a business at the end of the day.

An apology from the board for their conduct recently wouldnít go amiss though.
Agree letís move on and judge him on his performance over the rest of the season.
Bartonís comments about learning more in one afternoon with Keates say everything about BHs motivational skills and his appointment.
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Dean keates is a professional footballer/manager. He will work wherever the deal or prospects are best for him and his family. When he left us 18 months ago, he did what 99% of managers would have done - he is no money grabbing monster. Rickets did somewhat similar, thatís football today. Itís not like the 1960ís when some staff stayed at clubs for their entire career.
I am happy with my employer, but if a rival company rang me and offered me 30% more money, better car and pension, I would be mad not to be interested. We forget- it only fans who stay with their club for life. Itís not realistic to believe that players/managers will show any form of loyalty.
I am unhappy with the Keates appointment, because I wanted an outsider with new ideas. Itís not his fault that he is here - thatís a decision the board took.
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It’s not for dean to apologise... all he’s down is grasp at an opportunity.

It’s for the board to apologise for their rather unsavoury behaviour and lies. I won’t be setting foot in the ground again unless there is a proper explanation into previous recruitment and an apology to the DSA as a minimum. Whoever was responsible for the emails to the DSA needs to walk away from their position.
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