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LlayDragon · 17th October 2019, 17.42:57

Reaching the play-offs is the minimum we should be measured against, every season we're down here.

This season is a right-off because of the string of reckless decisions by the board. However whilst staying-up would be a relief there's no way I can measure it as a success.

benwilliams · 17th October 2019, 17.54:38

The longer this goes on the more playoffs seem out of reach. I am an optimist and really dont think we will be relegated. I think we will end up comfortably safe in 13th but never troubling the top 7.

That would be a very poor finish based on summer expectations but we are where we are.
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NottsRed · 17th October 2019, 17.59:48

I honestly believe we will be relegated. There is something fundamentally wrong with the squad we have and the coaching set up and this season it is catching up with us. i don't think Keates can turn it around with what we have at the moment and i don't believe he has the funds / availability of players to either.

thedischunter96 · 17th October 2019, 18.12:32

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Originally Posted by NottsRed

I honestly believe we will be relegated. There is something fundamentally wrong with the squad we have and the coaching set up and this season it is catching up with us. i don't think Keates can turn it around with what we have at the moment and i don't believe he has the funds / availability of players to either.

Agree with this. We have 1 day a week coaches. In some clubs this works, whereas with us it shows that it doesn't. Getting relegated would be a reality check for the board who realise that actually we are not too big of a club to go down.

If we do it will be smaller budget, no TV money (unless FA cup run) and lower gates.

Success is defined on what is achieved. The board seem happy that we have made the play offs 5 times out of the 11 seasons (pending 12th season finish spot) that we have been in this league. Winning the league or gaining promotion via the play offs is success.

benwilliams · 17th October 2019, 18.13:36

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Originally Posted by thedischunter96

Agree with this. We have 1 day a week coaches. In some clubs this works, whereas with us it shows that it doesn't. Getting relegated would be a reality check for the board who realise that actually we are not too big of a club to go down.

If we do it will be smaller budget, no TV money (unless FA cup run) and lower gates.

Success is defined on what is achieved. The board seem happy that we have made the play offs 5 times out of the 11 seasons (pending 12th season finish spot) that we have been in this league. Winning the league or gaining promotion via the play offs is success.

Whatever you think of him Davies is full time as is Keates. He has brought 1 player in already and I imagine more to follow.
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Quay Red · 17th October 2019, 18.45:58

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Originally Posted by LlayDragon

Reaching the play-offs is the minimum we should be measured against, every season we're down here.

This season is a right-off because of the string of reckless decisions by the board. However whilst staying-up would be a relief there's no way I can measure it as a success.

I'd substitute Dibble for that.

the sleeping giant dies · 17th October 2019, 18.48:03

the board think we have plenty of time to turn this around after all its still only oct, and they think we are too big a club to go down. they have taken the cheap option every time and now its come back to bite them and us on the arse. they have destroyed any confidence and trust the fans had in them. giving stupid 3 half years contracts out like they were throwing confetti at a wedding.im fed up with all the cover ups and waste of money. noone addmitting sorry we got it wrong. they are here to stay, and will not hand over power to anyone . thats why i said in the pole at the start of the season we will be relegated. we are the only team that got relegated down here not to have gone back up, that in it self tells you something is nt right. they talk the talk but don t deliver.

pawn star · 17th October 2019, 18.52:46

Positives of being relegated
Visiting nearer stadiums so less travelling so we can save more money to purchase a general Midfielder.
Fans treated like royalty or diplomats with the kind police officers giving us a police escort to our lovely neighbours up the road.
York and Gateshead great for a weekender away.
Hereford alway a good away day
Kiddy five star food
Brackley Town head to head with our previous manager
more away fans
less queuing up at home and away games
might never get promoted but more likely to be challenging for a play off place over the next 12 years than we have the previous 12 years

andrew · 17th October 2019, 18.57:06

The board and WST have had their heads in the sand for a while,quite happy just plodding along with no vision for the future.I hope they see this a reality check and up their game by giving Keates the money and resources that are needed to get us out of the mess we are currently in.I would question where has all the money gone

View Poll Results: Where will we finish?
Win the League	4	2.06%
Promotion via the Play-Offs	5	2.58%
Play-Offs but no Promotion	7	3.61%
Between 8th and 14th	67	34.54%
Between 15th and 20th	85	43.81%
Relegated	26	13.40%
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

17th October 2019, 17.42:57	#10-0 (permalink)
LlayDragon retired & running a pub (info) Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure Reaching the play-offs is the minimum we should be measured against, every season we're down here. This season is a right-off because of the string of reckless decisions by the board. However whilst staying-up would be a relief there's no way I can measure it as a success. __________________ All hail the mad banana!

17th October 2019, 17.54:38	#11-0 (permalink)
benwilliams Taking coaching badges Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: MRS Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure The longer this goes on the more playoffs seem out of reach. I am an optimist and really dont think we will be relegated. I think we will end up comfortably safe in 13th but never troubling the top 7. That would be a very poor finish based on summer expectations but we are where we are. Posted via mobile theme

17th October 2019, 17.59:48	#12-0 (permalink)
NottsRed Part Time ITV4 Pundit Joined: Oct 2013 Racecourse Spot: none given Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure I honestly believe we will be relegated. There is something fundamentally wrong with the squad we have and the coaching set up and this season it is catching up with us. i don't think Keates can turn it around with what we have at the moment and i don't believe he has the funds / availability of players to either.

17th October 2019, 18.48:03	#16-0 (permalink)
the sleeping giant dies Club Captain (info 1 & 2) Joined: Dec 2009 Racecourse Spot: on a seat Real Name: none given Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure the board think we have plenty of time to turn this around after all its still only oct, and they think we are too big a club to go down. they have taken the cheap option every time and now its come back to bite them and us on the arse. they have destroyed any confidence and trust the fans had in them. giving stupid 3 half years contracts out like they were throwing confetti at a wedding.im fed up with all the cover ups and waste of money. noone addmitting sorry we got it wrong. they are here to stay, and will not hand over power to anyone . thats why i said in the pole at the start of the season we will be relegated. we are the only team that got relegated down here not to have gone back up, that in it self tells you something is nt right. they talk the talk but don t deliver.

17th October 2019, 18.52:46	#17-0 (permalink)
pawn star Club Captain (info) Joined: Jul 2012 Racecourse Spot: MRS Real Name: Mold Road Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure Positives of being relegated Visiting nearer stadiums so less travelling so we can save more money to purchase a general Midfielder. Fans treated like royalty or diplomats with the kind police officers giving us a police escort to our lovely neighbours up the road. York and Gateshead great for a weekender away. Hereford alway a good away day Kiddy five star food Brackley Town head to head with our previous manager more away fans less queuing up at home and away games might never get promoted but more likely to be challenging for a play off place over the next 12 years than we have the previous 12 years

17th October 2019, 18.57:06	#18-0 (permalink)
andrew Squad Player Joined: Jun 2008 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: Redefining Success from Failure The board and WST have had their heads in the sand for a while,quite happy just plodding along with no vision for the future.I hope they see this a reality check and up their game by giving Keates the money and resources that are needed to get us out of the mess we are currently in.I would question where has all the money gone