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Old 21st October 2019, 21.57:07   #51-0 (permalink)
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Once again I am not John - and what the fcuk is that supposed to mean -
It's interesting that the same few with different RP names continually refers to posters that disagree with him as if they too were one person.

I wonder how many genuinely individual posters actually use this board regularly.
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Anyone able to post a synopsis of the meeting?

Thanks in advance.
It was asked if there could be 6 or more seats made available in the directors box for members instead of just 2 and that social media not be used for selection of those members. Just I presume a random selection.
The WST board said they will consider the suggestion.
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It's interesting that the same few with different RP names continually refers to posters that disagree with him as if they too were one person.

I wonder how many genuinely individual posters actually use this board regularly.
I think it's probably something to do with how many people are suspicious of John Mills's internet activity. Naively, I assumed as a director he'd be someone who acted responsibly until I saw the screenshots of his actions in banning Fezbob from SO78. There may be others like me who are now even more suspicious of him.
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It was asked if there could be 6 or more seats made available in the directors box for members instead of just 2 and that social media not be used for selection of those members. Just I presume a random selection.
The WST board said they will consider the suggestion.
That's a good idea, it would give more fans the chance to meet and talk to board members. It's the only way to really find out what's going on.
If you rely on official statements and forum Q&A you only ever get the party line.
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I think it's probably something to do with how many people are suspicious of John Mills's internet activity. Naively, I assumed as a director he'd be someone who acted responsibly until I saw the screenshots of his actions in banning Fezbob from SO78. There may be others like me who are now even more suspicious of him.
I certainly am very suspicious of his past activity now !!!!
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That's a good idea, it would give more fans the chance to meet and talk to board members. It's the only way to really find out what's going on.
If you rely on official statements and forum Q&A you only ever get the party line.
Vambo, On such occasions its usual to mix and discuss matters with the visiting committee / directors in a mutual and friendly environment.

Internal matters are usually reserved for members meetings but tonights poor attendance showed there is a good deal of apathy around the club which is not good for the future of the club.
(Apologies, of course, to those who did engage tonight and those who could not attend)
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Some of the questions asked as I remember them

Question asked regarding the mistakes made over the last few years

Previous response given in February given again ( challenged latter by Richard regarding when Barrow told Spencer pre meet the manager or post meet the manager, both accused the other of being " mistaken".

Question regarding what happened with the DSA, this got very heated with the board on the back foot and sounding like they reiterated the decision to not use the volunteers going forward? Question from the DSA who leaked the accusation that the DSA had downed tools etc via twitter, board denied it was anyone on the board, when asked would they investigate the answer was "how would they investigate"

I didn't get the impression that anyone had learnt any lessons from the cock up.

Question regarding the latest resignation from the board. Board stated due to personal issues challenged again by a member with a text being produced stating a different reason.

Carl Darlington's role and performance as a coach being challenged ( not improving any players and negative football) Answer was all the managers wanted him and he is very good and a Wrexham fan like all of us.

Did anyone on the board think they should resign after all the mistakes- Answer no, we have done really well except for this year.

Did the board require new members to get away from group think, No we have all the skills required and have done really well 3 highest points total in our history and if we had beaten Orient we would have gone up.

Peter did announce that they are looking at a director of football going forward ( I think that's what he was suggesting I don't want to put words in to his mouth)

Was not an easy ride for the board tonight more questions asked but my memory is not what it was.

Well done to all for asking questions, at the start it didn't look like any would be asked
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Some of the questions asked as I remember them

Question asked regarding the mistakes made over the last few years

Previous response given in February given again ( challenged latter by Richard regarding when Barrow told Spencer pre meet the manager or post meet the manager, both accused the other of being " mistaken".

Question regarding what happened with the DSA, this got very heated with the board on the back foot and sounding like they reiterated the decision to not use the volunteers going forward? Question from the DSA who leaked the accusation that the DSA had downed tools etc via twitter, board denied it was anyone on the board, when asked would they investigate the answer was "how would they investigate"

I didn't get the impression that anyone had learnt any lessons from the cock up.

Question regarding the latest resignation from the board. Board stated due to personal issues challenged again by a member with a text being produced stating a different reason.

Carl Darlington's role and performance as a coach being challenged ( not improving any players and negative football) Answer was all the managers wanted him and he is very good and a Wrexham fan like all of us.

Did anyone on the board think they should resign after all the mistakes- Answer no, we have done really well except for this year.

Did the board require new members to get away from group think, No we have all the skills required and have done really well 3 highest points total in our history and if we had beaten Orient we would have gone up.

Peter did announce that they are looking at a director of football going forward ( I think that's what he was suggesting I don't want to put words in to his mouth)

Was not an easy ride for the board tonight more questions asked but my memory is not what it was.

Well done to all for asking questions, at the start it didn't look like any would be asked
Thanks for the summary. Same as it ever was then.

The board's actions have caused apathy and that's the biggest danger. They won't realise until the damage is potentially too great.
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Thanks for the summary. Same as it ever was then.

The board's actions have caused apathy and that's the biggest danger. They won't realise until the damage is potentially too great.
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A chap did state that apathy/ lack of interest is the biggest danger to the club.

I think that Spencer should not do all the talking, he comes across as arrogant and condescending on occasion. However the mike is passed to him to answer most questions and the rest of the board appear happy to push him forward. I can understand why as he must keep control of contentious meetings in his job, but this is a different audience and you cant talk down to a membership of what are supposed to be equals.

Tonight did make me doubt if the fan owned model has any future for the first time, the board should have put their hands up to what has gone wrong ( including the DSA fiasco) and shown they have learnt and are learning lessons even after 8 years, which is no time at all when learning a role like this.

Just like to say that the board member who covers the finances impressed me tonight, not for the first time. Puts himself across well and knows his brief.
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