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Old 2nd November 2019, 10.00:21   #21-0 (permalink)
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If the numbers are gained.

Will the EGM be organised by the WST Board?
According to the constitution. Yes. If the WST don't organise it within 4 weeks then the proposers can arrange the meeting at the WST's expense.

How much will the EGM cost the WST ? Not entirely sure of the cost but all members have to be informed of the proposed Resolutions and it could cost between £!k and £2k dependant on who they need to post info to.

Approximately - When is it likely to take place following the requisite numbers being gained?
As above. Within 4 weeks

Are the WST board allowed to place counter proposals or give advice alongside proposals as is done at AGM,s ?
Yes. Any member can speak for or against the resolution

As yet there appear to be general proposals, some of which will require a change to the constitution.
The Resolutions need to be aimed specifically at the clauses that require changing, quoting the existing rule and the proposed change.
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Old 2nd November 2019, 10.36:54   #23-0 (permalink)
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You are a lifetime trust member if you bought the comminity share arent you?

If so then yes.
Thanks for that. Bought community share when they came out. Also used to pay WST yearly membership but haven't bothered for last couple of years. Haven't Had any correspondence from club since not paying WST. I presume they've forgotten I'm a community shareholder. Will add my name for gem when I find my number.
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Thanks for that. Bought community share when they came out. Also used to pay WST yearly membership but haven't bothered for last couple of years. Haven't Had any correspondence from club since not paying WST. I presume they've forgotten I'm a community shareholder. Will add my name for gem when I find my number.
That was one almighty scam wasn't it... the community shares. It was nothing more than a money grab to fund the egos of the few. Calling that grab "shares" was cruel as some would have bought thinking they were real shares in the football club whereas they are not shares at all in the way they wanted us to believe. Another WST economy of truth. Ideologists always want somebody else to fund their experiments dont they.
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That was one almighty scam wasn't it... the community shares. It was nothing more than a money grab to fund the egos of the few. Calling that grab "shares" was cruel as some would have bought thinking they were real shares in the football club whereas they are not shares at all in the way they wanted us to believe. Another WST economy of truth. Ideologists always want somebody else to fund their experiments dont they.
What a load of drivel.
When the community shares were launched, all the fans who donated were fully aware of the purpose and the way the shares worked.
Unless you think that the fans who contributed were just stupid.
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What a load of drivel.
When the community shares were launched, all the fans who donated were fully aware of the purpose and the way the shares worked.
Unless you think that the fans who contributed were just stupid.
QR- why the hostility ? ffs.
Tell me in what way having a community share gives you elevated ownership rights to somebody not having any ?
They should not be called shares as you well know so reign in the tone.

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QR- why the hostility ? ffs.
Tell me in what way having a community share gives you elevated ownership rights to somebody not having any ?
Wasn't meant to be hostile just blunt. Shares were never meant to give "elevated ownership".
Community shares don't give any greater say in the WST than any other member. They do give life membership.
All were aware of this when they signed up.
Similarly it's one person, one vote no matter how much individuals contribute monthly.
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Wasn't meant to be hostile just blunt. Shares were never meant to give "elevated ownership".
Community shares don't give any greater say in the WST than any other member. They do give life membership.
All were aware of this when they signed up.
Similarly it's one person, one vote no matter how much individuals contribute monthly.
I asked the question to the WST years ago about if I was to put in say £12000 would I have any more say at how things are run than somebody who puts in £12 ... I think it was £12 membership at the time. I was basically laughed at. Keeping politics out of it is difficult tbh but that thinking is why we have declined to where we are. Too little of other peoples money wasted by probs a well meaning but ideologically driven clique. I was told if I cared about the club then I would hand over the money. People have to earn the right to have that degree of arrogance... the current leadership have not.
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I asked the question to the WST years ago about if I was to put in say £12000 would I have any more say at how things are run than somebody who puts in £12 ... I think it was £12 membership at the time. I was basically laughed at. Keeping politics out of it is difficult tbh but that thinking is why we have declined to where we are. Too little of other peoples money wasted by probs a well meaning but ideologically driven clique. I was told if I cared about the club then I would hand over the money. People have to earn the right to have that degree of arrogance... the current leadership have not.
Understand your point but it's not the board who decided this it's the membership.
The constitution was adopted from Supporters direct. One person one vote.
There is nothing to stop the membership altering the constitution if they have the required majority.
There are numerous different models of fan ownership. Luton, I believe run a separate share option, something that might be considered?
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The WST leadership support the £12 is of equal importance to the £12000. That thinking is what keeps them in power. The WST leadership and the WAFC board are effectively one and the same. Tell 2000 people that their £15 a year buys them the same rights as 100 people putting in £300 and you have the votes of 2000 people.
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