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Old 12th November 2019, 19.42:38   #1-0 (permalink)
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It’s been seven weeks since the Twitter account calling for an EGM at the Wrexham Supporters Trust first made contact with the world. A week ago this account announced that it had 102 of the 132 signatures it needed, an EGM would almost certainly go ahead, and made an appeal for the final 30 signatures to get this over the line. Promising eh? Even if the 17 signatures a week this movement had got hardly compares with Napoleon marching back through France to reclaim his position.

Since then some interesting developments, if you can call them that. I (admittedly after my first drink in six weeks) tried to urge people into signing this to “put us out of our misery”. A bit arrogant of me, but I do actually have more Twitter followers than the EGM account, ludicrously. The next tweet from that EGM account came tonight to say that they needed just 30 more signatures to bring the EGM....err, what? Literally not one more signature in the last week; which probably explains why the mysterious account holder, rather desperately, replied to a tweet from Spencer Harris plugging Rangers tickets to do this.

I waded into this debate a couple of weeks ago and put a couple of noses out of joint with some of my suggestions but maybe we need to revisit them:

1. Football improvement was always likely to take the wind out of the sails of this. That improvement has been marginal but it ended some silly chants at the Bromley game and it seems to have assisted in stalling the progress of this.
2. The whole thing was too half arsed to really cut through. Aims seem admirable but barely scratch the surfaces of the real issues at the club and its future direction. That, plus the issue of anonymity, makes the whole thing lack real credibility and seem like an exercise in opportunism.
3. It was suggested on here by one of the site’s most prominent (big) mouthpieces that I just wanted to detail the process, and a focus on anonymity was a bit of a straw man argument. But it seems this process didn’t need any help from me to fail to catch fire; it’s just not cutting through.

So what next? Even if that push over line comes as I press send on this post, this movement as it stands hasn’t the numbers or the arguments to achieve anything but some petty squabbles. So what are those supporting this going to do next? I’d suggest that a movement calling for transparency can’t hide in the shadows for starters. It also can’t be focusing on football specifics that change pretty quickly. An EGM needs to get to the big issues rather than flavours of the month, even those that really need discussion. If there’s a real appetite for this then those behind it have got to do so much better. Saying so didn’t go down so well with some, predictably, but the longer this drags on the more it looks like I was right.

So is this going to open up and re-focus or is it going to dribble into insignificance?
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Dribble into insignificance
Old 12th November 2019, 20.12:48   #3-0 (permalink)
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Is the EGM still happening? Appears to have died a death.
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Is the EGM still happening? Appears to have died a death.
They pulled the Berlin Wall down overnight but this appears to be a bigger job. But as you think it might quietly slip away with its loved ones round its bedside, a tweet appears advertising its continued intentions.
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They pulled the Berlin Wall down overnight but this appears to be a bigger job. But as you think it might quietly slip away with its loved ones round its bedside, a tweet appears advertising its continued intentions.
the wall may have been pulled down overnight, but it took decades of politiking to get to t position where the first stone could be removes
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If EGM2019 has to rebrand to EGM2020 then that to me says it is done.

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What are they, and what sorts them out?
Old 12th November 2019, 20.57:16   #7-0 (permalink)
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the wall may have been pulled down overnight, but it took decades of politiking to get to t position where the first stone could be removes
Many failed talks and false dawns. You’re quite right. But that probably means in this instance this has to be filed away or upgraded to be that first brick - if indeed that’s what people want. It’ll be interesting to see if/how that shows itself.
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It’s been seven weeks since the Twitter account calling for an EGM at the Wrexham Supporters Trust first made contact with the world. A week ago this account announced that it had 102 of the 132 signatures it needed, an EGM would almost certainly go ahead, and made an appeal for the final 30 signatures to get this over the line. Promising eh? Even if the 17 signatures a week this movement had got hardly compares with Napoleon marching back through France to reclaim his position.

Since then some interesting developments, if you can call them that. I (admittedly after my first drink in six weeks) tried to urge people into signing this to “put us out of our misery”. A bit arrogant of me, but I do actually have more Twitter followers than the EGM account, ludicrously. The next tweet from that EGM account came tonight to say that they needed just 30 more signatures to bring the EGM....err, what? Literally not one more signature in the last week; which probably explains why the mysterious account holder, rather desperately, replied to a tweet from Spencer Harris plugging Rangers tickets to do this.

I waded into this debate a couple of weeks ago and put a couple of noses out of joint with some of my suggestions but maybe we need to revisit them:

1. Football improvement was always likely to take the wind out of the sails of this. That improvement has been marginal but it ended some silly chants at the Bromley game and it seems to have assisted in stalling the progress of this.
2. The whole thing was too half arsed to really cut through. Aims seem admirable but barely scratch the surfaces of the real issues at the club and its future direction. That, plus the issue of anonymity, makes the whole thing lack real credibility and seem like an exercise in opportunism.
3. It was suggested on here by one of the site’s most prominent (big) mouthpieces that I just wanted to detail the process, and a focus on anonymity was a bit of a straw man argument. But it seems this process didn’t need any help from me to fail to catch fire; it’s just not cutting through.

So what next? Even if that push over line comes as I press send on this post, this movement as it stands hasn’t the numbers or the arguments to achieve anything but some petty squabbles. So what are those supporting this going to do next? I’d suggest that a movement calling for transparency can’t hide in the shadows for starters. It also can’t be focusing on football specifics that change pretty quickly. An EGM needs to get to the big issues rather than flavours of the month, even those that really need discussion. If there’s a real appetite for this then those behind it have got to do so much better. Saying so didn’t go down so well with some, predictably, but the longer this drags on the more it looks like I was right.

So is this going to open up and re-focus or is it going to dribble into insignificance?
points 2 and 3 mention anonymity. for me this is key, If the movers and shakers do not seem to have the testicular fortitude to put their heads above the parapet, how can they expect people to follow in significant numbers ?
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Is this about the boards theme tune nothing compares to u(s) oh sorry that was 7 hours not weeks 😊
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