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Old 28th November 2019, 11.49:02   #11-0 (permalink)
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This team don't deserve the fantastic support Wrexham fans give nor do they provide much to shout about even in terms of pure running and effort, especially away from home. Fck em is my attitude at the moment.

When the club captain downs tools as and when he feels like it, it only further shows the piss poor attitude that's running throughout the players. So they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

Keates is getting pelters and rightly so for a number of reasons, but he and the board are getting all the flack however yet again the players get off lightly with nothing more than a few boos at HT and FT.

Do they give a flying fck? Its hard to make a case that they do.

Out of present squad members I'd say Young and Jennings were the only ones who looked like they cared on Tuesday night.
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This team don't deserve the fantastic support Wrexham fans give nor do they provide much to shout about even in terms of pure running and effort, especially away from home. Fck em is my attitude at the moment.

When the club captain downs tools as and when he feels like it, it only further shows the piss poor attitude that's running throughout the players. So they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

Keates is getting pelters and rightly so for a number of reasons, but he and the board are getting all the flack however yet again the players get off lightly with nothing more than a few boos at HT and FT.

Do they give a flying fck? Its hard to make a case that they do.

Out of present squad members I'd say Young and Jennings were the only ones who looked like they cared on Tuesday night.


We started well on Tuesday but my concern is the way we failed to respond to going a goal down.
Too many players let their heads drop. Personally thought Jennings was poor and slows play down as he has no ability to go past a defender. Gets in one decent cross a game if he's lucky.
Young played well but started slowly, Summerfield and Wright were non existent for most of the game. Pearson looked about 80% fit. Carra was average. Grant isolated, Rutherford did OK. Patrick looked like a decent acquisition but unless we start to link play up better he'll be no use to us.
Hoofball does not work with the players we've got.
Hughes got more out of the team than Keates is doing and Flynn playing 3 at the back was building a more entertaining and fluent side. Should have been given 'till the end of the season to see if he could complete the job.
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We started well on Tuesday but my concern is the way we failed to respond to going a goal down.
Too many players let their heads drop. Personally thought Jennings was poor and slows play down as he has no ability to go past a defender. Gets in one decent cross a game if he's lucky.
Young played well but started slowly, Summerfield and Wright were non existent for most of the game. Pearson looked about 80% fit. Carra was average. Grant isolated, Rutherford did OK. Patrick looked like a decent acquisition but unless we start to link play up better he'll be no use to us.
Hoofball does not work with the players we've got.
Hughes got more out of the team than Keates is doing and Flynn playing 3 at the back was building a more entertaining and fluent side. Should have been given 'till the end of the season to see if he could complete the job.
If it wasn't for Laighton pulling off two exceptional save we could have lost that game 3-0
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This team don't deserve the fantastic support Wrexham fans give nor do they provide much to shout about even in terms of pure running and effort, especially away from home. Fck em is my attitude at the moment.

When the club captain downs tools as and when he feels like it, it only further shows the piss poor attitude that's running throughout the players. So they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

Keates is getting pelters and rightly so for a number of reasons, but he and the board are getting all the flack however yet again the players get off lightly with nothing more than a few boos at HT and FT.

Do they give a flying fck? Its hard to make a case that they do.

Out of present squad members I'd say Young and Jennings were the only ones who looked like they cared on Tuesday night.
Young - for sure , Jennings ? If by cared you mean he wanted to blame everyone for not being in the fictitious area he was drilling his hopeless passes to then ok. I think he is toxic and would like him gone. What has worried me in the time I have been able to calm down is Carra for example. Nothing really wrong but for sure disinterested. I would also say that Lainton cannot be blamed - you could be harsh and say he was beaten from distance but it was a good strike.
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If it wasn't for Laighton pulling off two exceptional save we could have lost that game 3-0
Thought that was what Keepers were paid for. We had a few chances ourselves.
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We ask if the players care? Why would they on the whole...
The majority are here for this season only so will leave at the end whatever the result (staying up or relegation). Most will still find clubs at this level (shockingly). They have no reason to care. They should, however, be playing with professional pride and giving the best they can even if the end result is still poor.

Which means that if all players are giving 100% then we really do have a crap team....
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Thought that was what Keepers were paid for. We had a few chances ourselves.
Didn't you know keepers are only there so opposition fans can shout " you fat b*****d" every goal kick?
Old 28th November 2019, 13.10:51   #18-0 (permalink)
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Young - for sure , Jennings ? If by cared you mean he wanted to blame everyone for not being in the fictitious area he was drilling his hopeless passes to then ok. I think he is toxic and would like him gone. What has worried me in the time I have been able to calm down is Carra for example. Nothing really wrong but for sure disinterested. I would also say that Lainton cannot be blamed - you could be harsh and say he was beaten from distance but it was a good strike.
For all Jennings failings, all Jennings was shouting at the forwards was to 'move', I don't think you can blame him for that. All he wanted was a few options for him to pass the ball into, he didn't get that for the majority.

Grant had given up, probably suffering after being effectively beaten up by their CB's all game, him and the others were static. Most players body language screamed 'don't give me the ball'.

I wouldn't put any blame on Lainton, on a personal level he may well feel he could have saved it but the defence and midfield were at fault for that goal for me.
I think Carra is just on the wane as a player, is he 32 now? Unfortunately his best days are behind him. Still our best RB though by some distance. I personally didn't notice him too much, not sure if that's good or bad.
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Thought that was what Keepers were paid for. We had a few chances ourselves.
Did we?
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Did we?
we had a few but we put virtually all of them into the stand.
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