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Old 4th December 2019, 22.03:04   #10-0 (permalink)
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he also spent £100k of money donated by fans from their own pockets as they believed him and he repayed them by walking out at a crucial time of the season.
I dont want this man anywhere near our club never mind as manager,
Cost the club £100k that season too, while ruining one young mans dreams.
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Old 4th December 2019, 22.08:44   #11-0 (permalink)
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He didn’t guide us to safety when he took over, that’s a myth

Then after blackmailing the club as a player for a new contract, purposely causing trouble to get Wilkin sacked and purposely playing poorly to get him sacked the club still stood by him

Gave him well paid contracts over and over again despite his legs going, letting him keep the captaincy so he could fulfill his lifelong dream of lifting a trophy at Wembley, allowed him to play and study his coaching degree at the same time (which is rare considering the others that were enrolled were very young and not first team squad material, paid for his degree for three years, have him his first break in management, gave him and increased budget, gave him literally every ounce of support possible and fans dug deep and gave £100,000 out of their own pockets for him to spit in the clubs face when we were close to achieving what he knew full well the fans were so desperate for. From his playing days he knew how badly fans were hurting

Add to that Don and Barry Horne leaving in protest of Keates’ appointment which has lead to terrible footballing management

Add to that his god awful record this time round. Doing worse than Bryan Hughes despite playing the majority of his games at home
People don't like the truth on RP, I said years ago he blackmailed the club for a new contract to an awful lot of abuse. He isn't well though of at Rhyl either! It's lead to the player power we see at the club now, he's getting a taste of his own medicine.

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Old 4th December 2019, 22.10:03   #12-0 (permalink)
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Keates has said yesterday that he will have to wait for the new players he wants until January. Kennedy and Patrick will be at the top of the list I expect. His previous track record at Wrexham is good .

Why what did he do with us?
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Old 4th December 2019, 22.28:44   #13-0 (permalink)
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"Add to that Don and Barry Horne leaving in protest of Keates’ appointment which has lead to terrible footballing management"

Is this on record anywhere? I always assumed they went after their mismanagement of the Mills situation? You know, appointing him at great expense and then letting him run the club into the ground?
They didnt mismanage they didnt want him either.
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Old 4th December 2019, 22.30:46   #14-0 (permalink)
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"Add to that Don and Barry Horne leaving in protest of Keates’ appointment which has lead to terrible footballing management"

Is this on record anywhere? I always assumed they went after their mismanagement of the Mills situation? You know, appointing him at great expense and then letting him run the club into the ground?
Pretty sure Barry Horne warned the board about the way Mills managed a football club beforehand but the board dismissed his advice. I've heard that from a couple of sources, both good.
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His football is shit, he's disloyal and his coaching team is abysmal.

He's the only manager in the world I wouldn't have swapped Hughes for
Pretty much sums it up. He's already a dead man walking here; many fans have just stopped attending games and there's only a few diehards who still blindly back anything and everything the boards do so their opinion is worth nothing and they don't count.
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Pretty sure Barry Horne warned the board about the way Mills managed a football club beforehand but the board dismissed his advice. I've heard that from a couple of sources, both good.
100% true. This is main reason behind his departure, the fools on our board thinking they know better.
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Old 5th December 2019, 09.54:47   #17-0 (permalink)
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He didn’t guide us to safety when he took over, that’s a myth

Then after blackmailing the club as a player for a new contract, purposely causing trouble to get Wilkin sacked and purposely playing poorly to get him sacked the club still stood by him

Gave him well paid contracts over and over again despite his legs going, letting him keep the captaincy so he could fulfill his lifelong dream of lifting a trophy at Wembley, allowed him to play and study his coaching degree at the same time (which is rare considering the others that were enrolled were very young and not first team squad material, paid for his degree for three years, have him his first break in management, gave him and increased budget, gave him literally every ounce of support possible and fans dug deep and gave £100,000 out of their own pockets for him to spit in the clubs face when we were close to achieving what he knew full well the fans were so desperate for. From his playing days he knew how badly fans were hurting

Add to that Don and Barry Horne leaving in protest of Keates’ appointment which has lead to terrible footballing management

Add to that his god awful record this time round. Doing worse than Bryan Hughes despite playing the majority of his games at home

You LOVE that line. I must have read it 30 times between here and the FB group. I dont think it is fair personally, I too wasnt best pleased when he left but there are more mitigating cirumstances than you are caring to remember.
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Old 5th December 2019, 11.15:01   #18-0 (permalink)
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Bringing Dean back was the wrong decision in my opinion for reasons already mentioned. However, ultimately I hope he does well as that means the club are doing well.
Do I have to like the choice of manager? Not at all.
He will be judged by results at the end of it all.
Our problems lie higher up than having Keates as manager unfortunately. And also are the reason we have Keates as manager!
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