2019 - A year in review - RedPassion.co.uk

northwalian dragon · 8th December 2019, 18.42:11

As we head into the end of 2019 we must review the most baffling, contentious and damaging year we've just had.

On the 31st Decemeber 2018 we were 2nd, a point behind Orient with a game in hand and as soon as we entered 2019 we lost 5 games in a row without scoring a goal. Fast forward to the end of the year and we have a massively divided fanbase, 5 different managers in a year, just hit our lowest position in our 155 year history and have no answers to some of the baffling questions that have been put forward.

If we were to collectively submit a list of question for the board to answer in full what would you ask? We could have the questions signed by a significant number of fans looking for explanations. The answers would be challenged and pressed upon in follow up communications. Protests clearly aren't wanted by the club, the club seems to have communication issues so lets give them the oportunity to answer fans ill feelings. Ideally some journalists would press them and assist with this but if not we as owners must ask these questions.

If we do not learn from our mistakes, if we do not review our season and challenge decisions and if we do not start planning and correcting problems now we have a bleak future ahead. Our current position, the current state of the club and the mass divide between fans is not down to bad luck.

I'm happy to lead this, so please submit your questions below. They can be sent in anonymously too, just send me a PM. The answers to these questions will also try to be fact checked as much as possible. Feel free to be as open and direct as you like in your concerns. Obviously not all questions can be asked and other peoples opinions will be saught to assess which questions are best to ask.

What do you want to ask?

Cartman · 8th December 2019, 19.14:36

Unfortunately this board are very skilled at avoiding the big questions. Or, as seen at many of the recent Meet The Manager/Q&A events, giving insufficient answers and then swiftly moving on without allowing anyone to follow them up.

pricey · 8th December 2019, 19.25:43

From the sublime, to the ridiculous!

Answer Release · 8th December 2019, 19.44:03

Spencer is hiding behind WST membership when the majority of fans aren’t members. Many, including myself, were members and have cancelled our subscriptions.

An open platform for Wrexham fans not just WST members is required, let’s see him squirm with the real opinions and pressing questions.

After all, he’s on the club board to serve the fans. He should answer to all not just the WST. Come on Spencer, let’s see you prove that we are a real fan driven community club.

andy buckley · 8th December 2019, 20.05:02

[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;232621 5 different managers in a year, just hit our lowest position in our 155 year history and have no answers to some of the baffling questions that have been put forward.

[/QUOTE]

To be honest I think finishing 11th in the Birmingham and District league in 1908/09 was worse.
But at least we won the Welsh Cup that year 😊

Bustas Nads · 8th December 2019, 20.24:10

I get that all fans are allowed opinions and there are issues rightly questioned. However the system is simple the WST owns the club if your not a member then unfortunately you have no influence. Membership may not be everyone’s preferred option but at least it gives you a vote....something you wouldn’t get from private ownership.
Right or wrong, good or bad everyone has a voice at £12 a year.. if you want change or believe in the process...Have influence

Jaded · 8th December 2019, 20.27:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bustas Nads

I get that all fans are allowed opinions and there are issues rightly questioned. However the system is simple the WST owns the club if your not a member then unfortunately you have no influence. Membership may not be everyone’s preferred option but at least it gives you a vote....something you wouldn’t get from private ownership.
Right or wrong, good or bad everyone has a voice at £12 a year.. if you want change or believe in the process...Have influence

Unfortunately, after the second platform motion fiasco, some of us no longer believe in the process.

Inside Left · 8th December 2019, 20.33:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy buckley

To be honest I think finishing 11th in the Birmingham and District league in 1908/09 was worse.
But at least we won the Welsh Cup that year 😊

I think the old Birmingham league had the status of what is now Div2 or the old 4th Div.

WrexhamO · 8th December 2019, 20.44:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bustas Nads

I get that all fans are allowed opinions and there are issues rightly questioned. However the system is simple the WST owns the club if your not a member then unfortunately you have no influence. Membership may not be everyone’s preferred option but at least it gives you a vote....something you wouldn’t get from private ownership.
Right or wrong, good or bad everyone has a voice at £12 a year.. if you want change or believe in the process...Have influence

£15 A year unless you pay direct debit isn't it?

8th December 2019, 18.42:11	#1-0 (permalink)
northwalian dragon Due a Testimonial Joined: Jan 2010 Racecourse Spot: Yale Stand Real Name: Twitter: @	2019 - A year in review As we head into the end of 2019 we must review the most baffling, contentious and damaging year we've just had. On the 31st Decemeber 2018 we were 2nd, a point behind Orient with a game in hand and as soon as we entered 2019 we lost 5 games in a row without scoring a goal. Fast forward to the end of the year and we have a massively divided fanbase, 5 different managers in a year, just hit our lowest position in our 155 year history and have no answers to some of the baffling questions that have been put forward. If we were to collectively submit a list of question for the board to answer in full what would you ask? We could have the questions signed by a significant number of fans looking for explanations. The answers would be challenged and pressed upon in follow up communications. Protests clearly aren't wanted by the club, the club seems to have communication issues so lets give them the oportunity to answer fans ill feelings. Ideally some journalists would press them and assist with this but if not we as owners must ask these questions. If we do not learn from our mistakes, if we do not review our season and challenge decisions and if we do not start planning and correcting problems now we have a bleak future ahead. Our current position, the current state of the club and the mass divide between fans is not down to bad luck. I'm happy to lead this, so please submit your questions below. They can be sent in anonymously too, just send me a PM. The answers to these questions will also try to be fact checked as much as possible. Feel free to be as open and direct as you like in your concerns. Obviously not all questions can be asked and other peoples opinions will be saught to assess which questions are best to ask. What do you want to ask?

8th December 2019, 19.14:36	#2-0 (permalink)
Cartman Club Captain Joined: Apr 2012 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: 2019 - A year in review Unfortunately this board are very skilled at avoiding the big questions. Or, as seen at many of the recent Meet The Manager/Q&A events, giving insufficient answers and then swiftly moving on without allowing anyone to follow them up.

8th December 2019, 19.25:43	#3-0 (permalink)
pricey Due a Testimonial (info 1 & 2) (info) Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: 2019 - A year in review From the sublime, to the ridiculous! __________________ "the lads here have always looked up to me" - Dennis Lawrence

8th December 2019, 19.44:03	#4-0 (permalink)
Answer Release First Teamer Joined: Oct 2004 Racecourse Spot: Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: 2019 - A year in review Spencer is hiding behind WST membership when the majority of fans aren’t members. Many, including myself, were members and have cancelled our subscriptions. An open platform for Wrexham fans not just WST members is required, let’s see him squirm with the real opinions and pressing questions. After all, he’s on the club board to serve the fans. He should answer to all not just the WST. Come on Spencer, let’s see you prove that we are a real fan driven community club.

8th December 2019, 20.05:02	#5-0 (permalink)
andy buckley Cult Hero Joined: Feb 2010 Racecourse Spot: yale paddock Real Name: andy Twitter: @	Re: 2019 - A year in review [QUOTE=northwalian dragon;232621 5 different managers in a year, just hit our lowest position in our 155 year history and have no answers to some of the baffling questions that have been put forward. [/QUOTE] To be honest I think finishing 11th in the Birmingham and District league in 1908/09 was worse. But at least we won the Welsh Cup that year 😊

8th December 2019, 20.24:10	#6-0 (permalink)
Bustas Nads Squad Player Joined: Jan 2009 Racecourse Spot: MRS Real Name: Twitter: @	Re: 2019 - A year in review I get that all fans are allowed opinions and there are issues rightly questioned. However the system is simple the WST owns the club if your not a member then unfortunately you have no influence. Membership may not be everyone’s preferred option but at least it gives you a vote....something you wouldn’t get from private ownership. Right or wrong, good or bad everyone has a voice at £12 a year.. if you want change or believe in the process...Have influence Last edited by Bustas Nads; 8th December 2019 at 20.26:01..