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fluffysheepsupporter 20th December 2019 14.01:46

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=Jaded;2328649]Also do any elections work like this? When you cast your vote a week ago yesterday, were you ready to step up and take over from Boris Johnson?![/QUOTE]

Not a good comparison. Boris does not lead a fan owned trust ( thank the lord). He has minions to do do his dirty deeds. The people on the Trust Board are volunteers , give up their own time for little reward, and there are no other persons on the horizon present and willing to do the work they do to keep our football club going. I had no intention of reading an enormous list of questions and answers which have achieved little other than to further antagonise a few supporters.

Ruabon Red 20th December 2019 14.02:50

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328743]Not a good comparison. Boris does not lead a fan owned trust ( thank the lord). He has minions to do do his dirty deeds. The people on the Trust Board are volunteers , give up their own time for little reward, [B]and there are no other persons on the horizon present and willing to do the work they do[/B] to keep our football club going. I had no intention of reading an enormous list of questions and answers which have achieved little other than to further antagonise a few supporters.[/QUOTE]

Are you sure?

fluffysheepsupporter 20th December 2019 14.30:01

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[QUOTE=LWR;2328710]Like or hate it. I think Red Passion is the biggest collection of Wrexham fans.

We may not all have the same view point but we certainly have the loudest voice. Why don't we collate a list of RP questions (say 40-50) . And put them to the club as one piece of work where everyone has full visability. That way every question has to be answered and they cant be cherry picked.

We can then put our collective weight behind this ensure they're all addressed. They may decide they can't answer them. But atleast they can't ignore them.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to deflate your idea but the biggest collection of Wrexham fans is the one who do not come on Red Passion. Where there are 200/300 posting but in the main just browsing compared to several thousand going to matches the figures simply do not stack up. And who is going to collate 50 when the person who created this thread asked 81 and said none had been answered. Better we go to see the football at Cae Ras and sometimes go home happy if we win , most times ( at the moment) the opposite. Unless that is we are going to do the donkey work of running the club which I for one am not.

fluffysheepsupporter 20th December 2019 14.32:58

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=Ruabon Red;2328744]Are you sure?[/QUOTE]

If they exist they haven't come forward with a detailed alternative plan and until they do I see no point in disturbing the status quo

FieldtownRed 20th December 2019 15.04:24

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
There's obviously a significant amount of users on here who want change at the club.
The problem is there's a much less significant amount on here who'll actually do anything to bring about change.

crazywelsh 20th December 2019 15.07:01

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328747]Sorry to deflate your idea but the biggest collection of Wrexham fans is the one who do not come on Red Passion. Where there are 200/300 posting but in the main just browsing compared to several thousand going to matches the figures simply do not stack up. And who is going to collate 50 when the person who created this thread asked 81 and said none had been answered. Better we go to see the football at Cae Ras and sometimes go home happy if we win , most times ( at the moment) the opposite. Unless that is we are going to do the donkey work of running the club which I for one am not.[/QUOTE]

Several thousand!

You’re actually as deluded with the football club as you were with telling everyone to vote tactically.

If there were several thousand as you say attending games, that would mean the wst support is nearly 1/3 of those in attendance, as most don’t want anything to do with the ideology being pushed and the constant lies that the club has never been ran better.

Spencer Harris’s interview on the BBC was just like corbyn cannot take responsibility, policies or in the boards case decisions, and yet here we are asked our opinion (like the referendum) to raise points yet these ideological idiots pick and choose what they want to do ignoring what they set out to do in the first place.

Wrexham FC is being ran into the ground.

Ooh aah Paskin 20th December 2019 15.13:02

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328743]Not a good comparison. Boris does not lead a fan owned trust ( thank the lord). He has minions to do do his dirty deeds. The people on the Trust Board are volunteers , give up their own time for little reward,[B] and there are no other persons on the horizon present and willing to do the work they do to keep our football club going[/B]. I had no intention of reading an enormous list of questions and answers which have achieved little other than to further antagonise a few supporters.[/QUOTE]

Umm, technically there are the Shadow Board members? Or has this not been actioned yet? ;)

Ooh aah Paskin 20th December 2019 15.16:44

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328747]Sorry to deflate your idea but the biggest collection of Wrexham fans is the one who do not come on Red Passion. Where there are 200/300 posting but in the main just browsing compared to several thousand going to matches the figures simply do not stack up. And who is going to collate 50 when the person who created this thread asked 81 and said none had been answered. Better we go to see the football at Cae Ras and sometimes go home happy if we win , most times ( at the moment) the opposite. Unless that is we are going to do the donkey work of running the club which I for one am not.[/QUOTE]

That is a dangerous attitude. By all means, support the board if that is your viewpoint but never become comfy with the status Quo (not the band ;)).
That way leads to complacency.

LWR 20th December 2019 16.22:09

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328747]Sorry to deflate your idea but the biggest collection of Wrexham fans is the one who do not come on Red Passion. Where there are 200/300 posting but in the main just browsing compared to several thousand going to matches the figures simply do not stack up. And who is going to collate 50 when the person who created this thread asked 81 and said none had been answered. Better we go to see the football at Cae Ras and sometimes go home happy if we win , most times ( at the moment) the opposite. Unless that is we are going to do the donkey work of running the club which I for one am not.[/QUOTE]

I agree.

Let's do nothing and stick with the same old rubbish.

redone 20th December 2019 16.37:11

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[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328645]Firstly I have not read any of the questions or answers . The whole idea got completely out of hand and for NWD it has clearly annoyed him even more because the answers do not suit him. For me it is very simple . We appointed a trust, voted in a board to run it , and if members don't like the board they have to be voted out. I would then expect those who vote them out to step in and do all the work of those who had left . That IMHO would not happen. There are no signs of a well organised take over process so this current fuss about the way the club is run is only serving to give some keyboard warriors potential and unnecessary heart attacks.[/QUOTE]

if ya no nowt say fk all

fluffysheepsupporter 20th December 2019 17.13:32

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=FieldtownRed;2328751]There's obviously a significant amount of users on here who want change at the club.
The problem is there's a much less significant amount on here who'll actually do anything to bring about change.[/QUOTE]

Spot on

krux 20th December 2019 17.29:04

[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328743]Not a good comparison. Boris does not lead a fan owned trust ( thank the lord). He has minions to do do his dirty deeds. The people on the Trust Board are volunteers , give up their own time for little reward, and there are no other persons on the horizon present and willing to do the work they do to keep our football club going. I had no intention of reading an enormous list of questions and answers which have achieved little other than to further antagonise a few supporters.[/QUOTE]

Has the advert gone out? And got no responses?
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fluffysheepsupporter 20th December 2019 17.31:37

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If all these people are so keen to take over why haven't they come forward and told us all about their plans and to explain why their way will be so much better? What happened to the protest planned at the recent match? How come insufficient votes were mustered to call an EGM? Everything points to a current reaction to a poor team and results on the field and to fans who can never accept that we are not a massive club always deserving of better than others.

Jaded 20th December 2019 17.45:20

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=Ooh aah Paskin;2328754]Umm, technically there are the Shadow Board members? Or has this not been actioned yet? ;)[/QUOTE]

I don’t think anyone knows, possibly because the board avoided answering the question about it!

sparky 20th December 2019 17.54:19

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328772]If all these people are so keen to take over why haven't they come forward and told us all about their plans and to explain why their way will be so much better? .[/QUOTE]

Maybe they remember how 'Friends of Wrexham' were treated.

krux 20th December 2019 18.11:38

[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328772]If all these people are so keen to take over why haven't they come forward and told us all about their plans and to explain why their way will be so much better? What happened to the protest planned at the recent match? How come insufficient votes were mustered to call an EGM? Everything points to a current reaction to a poor team and results on the field and to fans who can never accept that we are not a massive club always deserving of better than others.[/QUOTE]

Because we need to invite them to make a bid, and let them know that approaches are most welcome. Expecting people to step forward to make a hostile takeover is ludicrous.
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dagg 20th December 2019 18.43:17

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=fluffysheepsupporter;2328743]Not a good comparison. Boris does not lead a fan owned trust ( thank the lord). He has minions to do do his dirty deeds. The people on the Trust Board are volunteers , give up their own time for little reward, and there are no other persons on the horizon present and willing to do the work they do to keep our football club going. [B][COLOR="Red"]I had no intention of reading an enormous list of questions and answers which have achieved little other than to further antagonise a few supporter[/COLOR][/B]s.[/QUOTE]

I think you will find they have antagonised more than a few fans.

WREXHAM TID 20th December 2019 18.45:09

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
If honest answers were given to NWD's questions I think it would go along way to easing some of the pressure on the board!

oswestryred 20th December 2019 20.09:16

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
No, i asked about my wst shares and what was being done with the money. Broached this before with a certain director and he swiftly brushed it away

Huffy 20th December 2019 21.59:09

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=krux;2328778]Because we need to invite them to make a bid, and let them know that approaches are most welcome. Expecting people to step forward to make a hostile takeover is ludicrous.
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I persume he was talking about people to step up to the plate and put themselves in for a board position ??
Not about takeovers??

moynkeepthefaith 21st December 2019 02.58:42

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=Huffy;2328799]I persume he was talking about people to step up to the plate and put themselves in for a board position ??
Not about takeovers??[/QUOTE]

Of course he was and ,for me, he makes very valid points. The board are obviously not above criticism and must always be accountable but there is a clear correlation between team form and dissatisfaction with the board.
Personally I have always been much more concerned about the treatment of the DSA and will pursue that matter . I also intend when I retire to give more time to the DSA in whatever capacity - which is taking personal action.

fluffysheepsupporter 21st December 2019 07.29:06

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=Huffy;2328799]I persume he was talking about people to step up to the plate and put themselves in for a board position ??
Not about takeovers??[/QUOTE]

You are right.

mold road trendy 21st December 2019 07.42:33

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=northwalian dragon;2328548]What is your response to the Q&A, was it a success? Did you have your question answered? Are you happy with the questions that the board selected to answer? Are you happy with the answers that they gave?

I submitted 81 questions on behalf of myself and other supporters, 0 were answered directly, some were answered from other supporters that were similar to what I had submitted. I will now be emailing the board to ask why there wasn't a single question answered that was submitted by myself.

If you submitted a question that wasn't answered or if you would like to followup on the answer that you received get in touch and I will chase it up for you.

Here's my list of questions:[/QUOTE]
I'm not surprised one bit by all of this .

mold road trendy 21st December 2019 07.49:26

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=chef1;2328625]The liars closed ranks and selected questions about seat shades .Fan owned lol[/QUOTE]
Apart from the deluded we knew it would happen. I can't bring myself to put another penny into this club until something positive at board level happens, it kills me missing home games but that's my protest now along with 2k+ more fans

krux 21st December 2019 08.59:26

[QUOTE=Huffy;2328799]I persume he was talking about people to step up to the plate and put themselves in for a board position ??
Not about takeovers??[/QUOTE]

The "who else is going to volunteer as much time as those lads?' Question assumes that the answer lies in more volunteers under the same ownership model.

If you think, like I do, that the club should be put up for sale, then you wont think we need to find new volunteers.

Therefore I merely answered the question from my perspective
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davewilli 21st December 2019 09.18:02

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=mold road trendy;2328821]Apart from the deluded we knew it would happen. I can't bring myself to put another penny into this club until something positive at board level happens, it kills me missing home games but that's my protest now along with 2k+ more fans[/QUOTE]

I think you are mistaken if you think 2K fans are staying away in protest, but attendances do need to improve. It's difficult to compare like for like as this time last year we were going for the championship and playing other promotion rivals. December 18, we had 4.1K home to Eistleigh so we are down just short of 1K which is a major worry and things need to be done to buck that trend. We are are in a regation scrap and hopefully Wxm fans will rally to the cause, otherwise we are no more of a prospect than a Chester or a York. No point moaning about past mistakes when it's too late, Wxm needs its fans now.

davewilli 21st December 2019 09.37:12

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I know Sean Newton was slated before leaving Wxm but he makes some good points in a Leader interview and sums up where we are.

dixienormous 21st December 2019 09.40:37

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=davewilli;2328836]I know Sean Newton was slated before leaving Wxm but he makes some good points in a Leader interview and sums up where we are.[/QUOTE]

Any links to what that vagina said? I'll never forget his performance against Stamford in the fa cup, sulking after mills had the sack. He must be related to Barton.

Huffy 21st December 2019 09.40:44

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=krux;2328831]The "who else is going to volunteer as much time as those lads?' Question assumes that the answer lies in more volunteers under the same ownership model.

If you think, like I do, that the club should be put up for sale, then you wont think we need to find new volunteers.

Therefore I merely answered the question from my perspective
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Thats ok Krux. Nothing wrong with the model . It just needs some new dynamic and more accountability and we are good

davewilli 21st December 2019 09.42:30

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=dixienormous;2328837]Any links to what that vagina said? I'll never forget his performance against Stamford in the fa cup, sulking after mills had the sack. He must be related to Barton.[/QUOTE]

Soz, tried a link but phone won't copy

Jaded 21st December 2019 10.00:18

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[QUOTE=davewilli;2328839]Soz, tried a link but phone won't copy[/QUOTE]

Dave, is it this one you mean?

[url]https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/sport/18116711.ex-wrexham-afc-left-back-sean-newton-knows-first-hand-no-club-big-go/[/url]

davewilli 21st December 2019 10.05:48

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[QUOTE=Jaded;2328843]Dave, is it this one you mean?

[url]https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/sport/18116711.ex-wrexham-afc-left-back-sean-newton-knows-first-hand-no-club-big-go/[/url][/QUOTE]

Aye, thanks

John Neals Dynasty 21st December 2019 10.33:11

[QUOTE=davewilli;2328836]I know Sean Newton was slated before leaving Wxm but he makes some good points in a Leader interview and sums up where we are.[/QUOTE]


Just read it he does make some good points but it's an obvious common sense one..

It's true that it's easier to sing, cheer and get behind the team when winning...but it's when confidence is rock bottom that they need it more....

It's ok having a moan on a forum I'm as guilty as the next fan, but when I'm at a game I get behind the team, unless Keates hoof it to one striker puts me to sleep.
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WrexhamO 21st December 2019 10.44:25

Re: Q&A REVIEW | Your thoughts, was your question answered?
 
[QUOTE=moynkeepthefaith;2328807]Of course he was and ,for me, he makes very valid points. The board are obviously not above criticism and must always be accountable but there is a clear correlation between team form and dissatisfaction with the board.
Personally I have always been much more concerned about the treatment of the DSA and will pursue that matter . I also intend when I retire to give more time to the DSA in whatever capacity - which is taking personal action.[/QUOTE]



You will be very welcome on board Moyn. Get in touch whenever you are ready.


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