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Old 10th January 2020, 17.15:11   #21-0 (permalink)
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Iím no Keates fan but reading that article it seems to be more a dig at the players than the fans. Saying that if the passion is there (meaning the players) then the backing of the fans will be there. I think he knows that the only way to close the divide between fans and the team is for performances to improve.
Tend to agree. It is a bit clumsy but cannot see anything that deserves all the vitriol. However, we need some quality players in those key positions if we are not to become detached. There are enough games left to escape the drop but we need to see more consistency and turn defeats into wins.
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Old 10th January 2020, 17.21:20   #22-0 (permalink)
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The end is nigh for him, as soon as you turn on fans in our predicament it's as good as over.

Hughes started turning on fans and was gone soon after.
Get it over with.

Time is wasting.
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Old 10th January 2020, 17.57:11   #23-0 (permalink)
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Keates should note that a still tongue keeps a wise head! There again, he is not the sharpest pencil in the box! His talk is cheap and inconsistent to boot!
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Old 10th January 2020, 18.37:50   #24-0 (permalink)
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I'm more bothered about the usual waffle : re signings. I thought someone was coming in today - a creative midfielder ? Now there is no mention just the usual vague talk of "bodies in the building" and no clear timescale. Not looking good.
He’s a fraud. Didn’t want him back here... so now it’s the fans fault. Unreal. If only our board had the bottle required to change things and admit to making mistakes.
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Old 10th January 2020, 18.49:13   #25-0 (permalink)
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There are so many ‘disconnects’ around the club, aren’t there

The board, disconnected from the rest of the fans, sitting aloof in the best seats in the house

Keates, disconnected from the players for too many hours during week days when he should have them all in, six hours per day, every day, minimum (they are professionals, so do a full time job please)

Keates, disconnected from the fans, he has no relationship whatsoever with the crowd, from the moment he walks out of the tunnel, to the moment he goes back down it after the game. Gary Mills was many (failing) things, but to be fair to him he did connect with the fans, looking to applaud the crowd when he could

The players are disconnected from the fans... very few of them seem to show even a quick clap of hands towards any fans before KO

And then Keates and PE Teacher and Dario Ancelotti stand static for the entire game, disconnected from the players, instead of being animated and showing some passion

All of these things are examples of where we are NOT One Club, we are NOT united (small U)

The fans pay their memberships to the WST, the fans pay for season tickets during the dry months of early summer when there’s less revenue coming in, the fans turn up in numbers of around 4000 despite the gutless, lazy performances they have to watch, such as the Aldershot game. Anything that we are offered that can be applauded, we are onto it. Raffle tickets, sponsorships, club shop merchandise, etc etc, the same cows are happy to be milked repeatedly, if only we can generate some success at the club as a result of it.

Isn’t it about time that the Board and Keates kept their side of the bargain, and start to engage with the fans more, and from the touchline show some REAL passion during the match?
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Old 10th January 2020, 19.11:16   #26-0 (permalink)
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That it dean, the reason we are shit is the fans.....those idiots in the board room, and Clipboard Carl.

I despair.
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Old 10th January 2020, 19.15:57   #27-0 (permalink)
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Iím no Keates fan but reading that article it seems to be more a dig at the players than the fans. Saying that if the passion is there (meaning the players) then the backing of the fans will be there. I think he knows that the only way to close the divide between fans and the team is for performances to improve.
That's how I read it too. He's saying that the players have to ensure the link is there. I don't read any criticism of fans.
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Old 10th January 2020, 19.40:40   #28-0 (permalink)
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“There seems to be a divide between the fans and the team, and that gap needs to be bridged. We need to be united.

“If it is pretty football, that is a bonus, but the fans got right behind the team at Chorley and the lads dug in on a poor surface, they ground out a result.

“The passion was shown and the backing was there. We need to make sure that happens game after game.”

In todays Leader, the fans got right behind them at Chorley and they got a result. Didn't get behind them (rightfully so) and we lost to Aldershot

The cheek of the bloke who stated he needed to build bridges between fans and himself and has done it by walking straight down the tunnel after losses, letting one of his players tell the supporters to f*ck off, not taking on any blame for the problems at the club and now seemingly blaming the fans

https://www.leaderlive.co.uk/sport/1...ague-position/
Ha ha, outraged because Keates dares to criticise supporters after all the vicious accusations and poisonous bile directed at just about everyone involved with the club from this supporters forum.
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Old 10th January 2020, 20.16:34   #29-0 (permalink)
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Its as simple as winning a few games. We’re shite on the pitch so Im going to complain about a manager going down a tunnel, a player stating the bleedin obvious and a Disney story about lack of a tie in the board room.

This is an opportunity for you guys to relax. Take the week off, chill and get back complaining next week if/when we lose and have something genuine to actually complain about.
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Old 10th January 2020, 20.26:26   #30-0 (permalink)
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Its as simple as winning a few games. Weíre shite on the pitch so Im going to complain about a manager going down a tunnel, a player stating the bleedin obvious and a Disney story about lack of a tie in the board room.

This is an opportunity for you guys to relax. Take the week off, chill and get back complaining next week if/when we lose and have something genuine to actually complain about.
Andy, do you not think that is a bit patronising? No one wants us to be losing games, no one wants us to be fighting to stay up and no one wants a divided club but fans care about this club and are in despair at the state we find ourselves in. Fans can see what the problems are but have no way to fix them which results in feelings being vented on here. I think you need to let people vent how they wish as we are all hurting
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