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Old 14th January 2020, 10.54:45   #11-0 (permalink)
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I'll bet its some melt making stuff up as they go along.
I think you have to be quite na´ve to believe all is well with the squad and manager.
Does everyone bar the board for example know that the players hate Darlington?
The players are talking and even the captain has spoken out. The players are trying to drive Keates out. Expect them to down tools again.
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Old 14th January 2020, 10.55:41   #12-0 (permalink)
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Reads like he is after one signing plus one loan.

Dan Jarvis, rumoured to be the signing is a centre midfield creator described as a good player but physically weak!

Can't see how 2 players will keep us up to be honest.
Old 14th January 2020, 11.06:47   #13-0 (permalink)
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Players won't leave if they are on good money.
They know they can move on at the end of the season and I doubt their 'careers' will have been too damaged. They are likely to find other clubs.
It appears that the players have given up on the whole, probably only five or six that seem to still want to fight for the cause (especially apparent on the Aldershot showing).
The atmosphere must be horrendous and I fear it is too late to rescue the changing room this season, we just have to hope we can pick up results and that 4 teams are actually worse than us. I think in reality only Ebbsfleet and Chorley are.
Old 14th January 2020, 11.14:00   #14-0 (permalink)
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Part of the blame with this has to be with Hughes for signing this dross and I imagine paying way over the odds for. Why if your on a cushy deal would you want to go elsewhere for less?

As for the team downing tool its going to make Saturday very interesting. I heard a similar rumour Sunday that players were downing tools and that Keates January transfer targets have already been missed out on or refused to come here.
Old 14th January 2020, 11.23:17   #15-0 (permalink)
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Part of the blame with this has to be with Hughes for signing this dross and I imagine paying way over the odds for. Why if your on a cushy deal would you want to go elsewhere for less?
This, but an even bigger part of this rests at the doors of those who employed him and took a needless risk that has backfired like an Austin Maestro.

As for Dibble, Barton, and that Scottish bloke, can you blame them? Where else are they going to go, I wouldn't have them at Prestatyn. Exciting times.
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Old 14th January 2020, 11.29:14   #16-0 (permalink)
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This, but an even bigger part of this rests at the doors of those who employed him and took a needless risk that has backfired like an Austin Maestro.

As for Dibble, Barton, and that Scottish bloke, can you blame them? Where else are they going to go, I wouldn't have them at Prestatyn. Exciting times.
Partly why im reluctant to blame Keates,, hes inherited an utter shambles
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Old 14th January 2020, 11.29:21   #17-0 (permalink)
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They'd probably rather sit here on X amount per week than drop to National League North/South wages, at least until they have to in the summer.

We'll have a similar issue if we try and sign Patrick, we wont be able to match Bradford wages so why would he commit ?
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Partly why im reluctant to blame Keates,, hes inherited an utter shambles
And made it worse
Old 14th January 2020, 11.32:05   #19-0 (permalink)
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Buck stops at the board and all the so called 'fans' who still support them. They're the ones dragging the club down. I'm reluctant to use the term but club killers is becoming more and more apt.
Blaming players and ex managers is just short sighted nonsense.
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Partly why im reluctant to blame Keates,, hes inherited an utter shambles
No he hasn't.
He has inherited (on the whole) a team that reached 4th in the league last season.
The additions Hughes made looked good on the whole (Hooper, Redmond, Harris) but have failed to deliver..most likely due to the system we are playing (Blame Darlington for that I would say).

Keates has taken this team and IMO made it perform worse despite recent victories.

he has added quality in Kennedy, Patrick and Horsfield (unfortunate injury) but is not getting the best out of the existing players,.

I'm now of the opinion that only the removal of Keates, Davies and Darlington and the appointment of a proper coaching team will save this season.
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