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Old 14th January 2020, 11.32:05   #19-0 (permalink)
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Buck stops at the board and all the so called 'fans' who still support them. They're the ones dragging the club down. I'm reluctant to use the term but club killers is becoming more and more apt.
Blaming players and ex managers is just short sighted nonsense.
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Partly why im reluctant to blame Keates,, hes inherited an utter shambles
No he hasn't.
He has inherited (on the whole) a team that reached 4th in the league last season.
The additions Hughes made looked good on the whole (Hooper, Redmond, Harris) but have failed to deliver..most likely due to the system we are playing (Blame Darlington for that I would say).

Keates has taken this team and IMO made it perform worse despite recent victories.

he has added quality in Kennedy, Patrick and Horsfield (unfortunate injury) but is not getting the best out of the existing players,.

I'm now of the opinion that only the removal of Keates, Davies and Darlington and the appointment of a proper coaching team will save this season.
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Part of the blame with this has to be with Hughes for signing this dross and I imagine paying way over the odds for. Why if your on a cushy deal would you want to go elsewhere for less?

As for the team downing tool its going to make Saturday very interesting. I heard a similar rumour Sunday that players were downing tools and that Keates January transfer targets have already been missed out on or refused to come here.
As mr Darlington decides what our clubs tactics are what are the chances that he decides which players we sign
Old 14th January 2020, 11.46:14   #22-0 (permalink)
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Yes let's believe a fake twitter account
I don't think you need any sort of Twitter account to have a decent idea of the atmosphere in the dressing room.

There's been enough in the local press.
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Old 14th January 2020, 11.48:53   #23-0 (permalink)
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I think you have to be quite naïve to believe all is well with the squad and manager.
Does everyone bar the board for example know that the players hate Darlington?
The players are talking and even the captain has spoken out. The players are trying to drive Keates out. Expect them to down tools again.
Which is exactly my point. All is clearly not well, so this bollocks twitter account is hardly having stuff leaked to them. They are making it up as they go along, you follow it closely, flip flopping everywhere.

Are they trying to drive out Keates though? Or just Darlington? Keates and Pearson are mates apparently?
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Are they trying to drive out Keates though? Or just Darlington? Keates and Pearson are mates apparently?
Keates sided with Darlington in a recent bust-up, so Pearson is not happy.
The bigger question is why the board have ignored for over a year the fact that the players have no respect for and hate Darlington?
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This, but an even bigger part of this rests at the doors of those who employed him and took a needless risk that has backfired like an Austin Maestro.

As for Dibble, Barton, and that Scottish bloke, can you blame them? Where else are they going to go, I wouldn't have them at Prestatyn. Exciting times.
Hasn't Barton had an ankle operation? He in on a 2yr deal to.
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Keates just laying the groundwork on another excuse as to why he wont bring quality in this window
So Keates is at fault for others giving high wages to players who aren't good enough, those players who are now refusing to leave?

The desperation to lynch the man is pathetic, the contracts and why we can't shift the players is nothing to do with him. Yes like all other fans there are serious concerns about his style etc, but we can't attribute all blame on his door.
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I will admit when wrong!! Keates staying but players still don’t want him!! Agents hear everything and everyone talks in football!! No agent wants players going into a toxic club!! Signings were promised by #wrexhamafc but no one managed to be convinced to come in!! Fans worried

Players and Keates not getting on at all!! 16 games left of the season can’t keep carrying on like it is!! Players need a manager they can play for!! Fans should be very worried about the toxic atmosphere in the changing rooms!! Source is a current #wafc player #wxmafc #wrexhamfc

Might be a better source than thought.

How true this is we can only guess, but Keates spouting off about his players in the Bleader can only make things worse, he was toxic to Wilkin and undermined him maybe it's payback time.
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