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Old 12th February 2020, 17.29:21   #11-0 (permalink)
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What a pain, can't do much beyond plan for both sites. Groves would make more sense to be the site for the school, encompassing the old building into the design.
With the building being listed doesn't that make any redevelopment plan difficult?
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At a high level, it does seem absurd that there’s a battle over building a new school on some treasured open fields, when half a mile down the road there is a vacant school. Oh, capitalism.
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With the building being listed doesn't that make any redevelopment plan difficult?
Unfortunately yes, CADW are a right pain to deal with, unlike English Heritage who give more leeway when redeveloping.
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So if the council are trying to remove the education covenant from the Groves site by mitigating against a new school on 9 acre what is going in the Groves building? This in its self may create a battle with groups in favour of the Groves remaining educational and of course groups who want 9 acre to remain green.
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Way things are going at the moment we might not be around in 5yrs never mind 150 yrs
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So if the council are trying to remove the education covenant from the Groves site by mitigating against a new school on 9 acre what is going in the Groves building? This in its self may create a battle with groups in favour of the Groves remaining educational and of course groups who want 9 acre to remain green.
I don't get why they don't look to sympathetically redevelop Groves, the current route will likely end up costing as much with all the battles that will be fought.

Plenty of examples out their of such redevelopments, plus the council will have to pay for the up keep of the Groves building if left empty., plus a new school on top.

I hope it all falls through, I don't believe Groves will be big enough for where the football club should be.

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Ah yes. That little matter of avoiding relegation into the 6th level of English football

I'd forgotten about that.
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Personally don’t think it is suitable, certainly not if we are to regain our place in the football league. It simply wouldn’t provide enough space for the required facilities to run a set up through from youth to first team.
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With the building being listed doesn't that make any redevelopment plan difficult?
Difficult because any proposal has to put the heritage asset first and foremost, and it significantly ramps up the development costs over a new built school.
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