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Old 10th February 2020, 17.09:11   #51-0 (permalink)
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Does anyone think like me that the bar should not be open for members meetings. That might promote a more business like approach.
Spot on - wouldn't run a bar in any other form of business so why us ?

I remember tuning into a previous 'live streamed' meeting and attempting to view it through Pete Jones pint of lager - the phrase 'total amateurs' sprung to mind.

Keep the bar closed only to be opened at the conclusion of the meeting but it will never happen will it ?
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Spot on - wouldn't run a bar in any other form of business so why us ?

I remember tuning into a previous 'live streamed' meeting and attempting to view it through Pete Jones pint of lager - the phrase 'total amateurs' sprung to mind.

Keep the bar closed only to be opened at the conclusion of the meeting but it will never happen will it ?
The meetings always look amateurish. The fact Pete Jones was heading the meeting with a pint in his hand tells you everything you need to know about how the club is run. Itís like a timewarp back to a union meeting in a working menís club.
Old 10th February 2020, 18.53:49   #53-0 (permalink)
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Will he actually go though?
I donít think so. I think the £50k off the first team budget, multi million pound business, dealing with companies of £xxxm etc etc are comments designed to make fans wonder whether they should turn the heat down and keep the status quo. Power and status is addictive, itís easy to say you will quit, quite a different thing to do it.

In reality the business isnít that big, £2m turnover isnít ,in the grand scheme of businessís, that large, however itís smallish turnover and limited customer base makes it fragile. Only sporting improvement will fundamentally improve the landscape. The debts got paid off by Wembley, cup runs, ward, Obeng, Taylor, Reid, Moult and other sales. That ship has largely sailed and wonít be replenished to anything like the same degree. So no upturn in sporting fortune will likely create a financial problem - thatís the more likely exit point.
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I donít think so. I think the £50k off the first team budget, multi million pound business, dealing with companies of £xxxm etc etc are comments designed to make fans wonder whether they should turn the heat down and keep the status quo. Power and status is addictive, itís easy to say you will quit, quite a different thing to do it.

In reality the business isnít that big, £2m turnover isnít ,in the grand scheme of businessís, that large, however itís smallish turnover and limited customer base makes it fragile. Only sporting improvement will fundamentally improve the landscape. The debts got paid off by Wembley, cup runs, ward, Obeng, Taylor, Reid, Moult and other sales. That ship has largely sailed and wonít be replenished to anything like the same degree. So no upturn in sporting fortune will likely create a financial problem - thatís the more likely exit point.
I think it's a case of leave on his terms playing the victim card of abuse etc rather than risk being voted out at the AGM or worse, evidence to support the allegations is released
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With relevance to next week's members' meeting, here's an extract of my reply to John Mills recent email. The full text can be seen on post #82-36772

"The Members Meeting on the 17th carries a significant risk of becoming no more than a slanging match against the Board and its members unless a measure of neutral control is applied. It is unthinkable that the meeting should take place without a framework, and the best form for that would be a fairly loose agenda, where time can be allocated for questions to be answered on the subjects likely to arise. It will be futile to try to divert the criticism that is inevitable regarding the performances on the pitch this season, and these will be directed at those who selected the team management, actual management viz. team selection, coaching techniques, match tactics, substitution during matches, and training regimes. There really are very few positive points likely to be made, other than to use results from a very few good performances to demonstrate that ability does exist, though consistency is completely lacking. As short cut to disaster will be any attempt to dismiss the complaints, or to attempt to over-ride them with war-stories about the areas of success that the Board members perceive. Fans really don’t want to hear about some vague community-related indicator when what really matters to them is the appalling standard of football they are witnessing, and the precarious position the club finds itself in on the brink of 6th tier obscurity, with poorly articulated post-match platitudes from a manager who simply does not see things through a fan’s eyes any more."
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Is my season ticket with my Wst 'club owner' card enough to get in tmz?
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Is my season ticket with my Wst 'club owner' card enough to get in tmz?
Your membership number is on the reverse. It's all I have.
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Your membership number is on the reverse. It's all I have.
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I donít think so. I think the £50k off the first team budget, multi million pound business, dealing with companies of £xxxm etc etc are comments designed to make fans wonder whether they should turn the heat down and keep the status quo. Power and status is addictive, itís easy to say you will quit, quite a different thing to do it.

In reality the business isnít that big, £2m turnover isnít ,in the grand scheme of businessís, that large, however itís smallish turnover and limited customer base makes it fragile. Only sporting improvement will fundamentally improve the landscape. The debts got paid off by Wembley, cup runs, ward, Obeng, Taylor, Reid, Moult and other sales. That ship has largely sailed and wonít be replenished to anything like the same degree. So no upturn in sporting fortune will likely create a financial problem - thatís the more likely exit point.
Sadly I have also thought this for some time now.

This issue of several questions and the long answers required is ludicrous for such a tiny business. A total deflection of focus.

It has principally been brought about due to a lack of leadership resulting in evasion, poor communication and downright incompetence. There should have been no need for most of the questions and therefore little need for the answers either.

There have been honourable exceptions which the apologists for the WST have unashamedly used as a shield against the fans outrage.

I have said for along time the club was being poorly run and in the round there is no longer any doubt in my mind this is the case.
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