Advert  

Go Back   RedPassion.co.uk Wrexham FC Message Board > Wrexham



Wrexham Talk about things related to Wrexham Football Club !

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 13th February 2020, 09.55:34   #31-0 (permalink)
Due a Testimonial
 
Welsh Kiwi's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)


(info)
 
Racecourse Spot: A red seat
Real Name:
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quay Red View Post
The platform position doesn't require the loss of seats.
It's a poor solution to the problem in creating a stand alone area for a very limited no. of supporters. Preference given to away fans.
For home fans it is remote and whilst anything is better than nothing, this is as close to nothing that the disabled fans could get.
It doesn't sound very clever to me.

Why can't we do clever ?

Why do we have to do poor and close to nothing.
__________________
Make Wrexham A.F.C. Great Again...
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 10.03:22   #32-0 (permalink)
Due a Testimonial
 
Welsh Kiwi's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)


(info)
 
Racecourse Spot: A red seat
Real Name:
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dlrwrexham View Post
Toby - It wasn't the building of another platform per se, that the WST board opposed when voting took place, it was the actual resolution, and the necessity therein to bring such projects to fruition "at the earliest possible opportunity".

Thanks. Though I guess in a way it's all semantics.

A resolution was passed democratically. It instructed the board to act on behalf of the membership.

This action may have been started by the board in some respects, but it hasn't been fulfilled. So it is therefore still non existent and not fruiting or flowering or any other productive term.

The addition of 'earliest possible opportunity' could be interpreted in many ways. Though it clearly suggests with goodwill that is should be expedited and not continually delayed.

I still don't get why the board would have been opposed to the necessity to bring the project to fruition at the earliest opportunity.

What was the reason for that ? I can't recall their official response to the resolution.
__________________
Make Wrexham A.F.C. Great Again...
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 10.34:00   #33-0 (permalink)
Taking coaching badges
 
Quay Red's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)


(info)
 
Racecourse Spot: MRS
Real Name:
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Kiwi View Post
Thanks. Though I guess in a way it's all semantics.

A resolution was passed democratically. It instructed the board to act on behalf of the membership.

This action may have been started by the board in some respects, but it hasn't been fulfilled. So it is therefore still non existent and not fruiting or flowering or any other productive term.

The addition of 'earliest possible opportunity' could be interpreted in many ways. Though it clearly suggests with goodwill that is should be expedited and not continually delayed.

I still don't get why the board would have been opposed to the necessity to bring the project to fruition at the earliest opportunity.

What was the reason for that ? I can't recall their official response to the resolution.
My understanding was that there was a concern about loss of seats if the second platform was to be located in an existing stand. That's why this new platform is remote from other fans.
Any platform situated over 2m from the ground would also need servicing by a lift.
The idea of a second platform is simple but the execution of this can be complicated. ( Egress from the concert etc.)
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 11.25:55   #34-0 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Iesty's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)  
Racecourse Spot: Mold road towards the kop
Real Name: iestyn
Twitter: @iesty83





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quay Red View Post
My understanding was that there was a concern about loss of seats if the second platform was to be located in an existing stand. That's why this new platform is remote from other fans.
Any platform situated over 2m from the ground would also need servicing by a lift.
The idea of a second platform is simple but the execution of this can be complicated. ( Egress from the concert etc.)
in addition to that, i think additional concerns included was having the platform beneath the away support, the length of the access ramp required and alterations to existing welfare facilities to cater for disabled access

however, it wasnt impossible!
__________________
There must, for instance, be something very strange in a man who , if left alone in a room with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on.
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 12.08:38   #35-0 (permalink)
Club Captain
 
Ruabon Red's Avatar

 
Racecourse Spot: Excellent Idea
Real Name: Yes of course I've got a real name
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quay Red View Post
My understanding was that there was a concern about loss of seats if the second platform was to be located in an existing stand. That's why this new platform is remote from other fans.
Any platform situated over 2m from the ground would also need servicing by a lift.
The idea of a second platform is simple but the execution of this can be complicated. ( Egress from the concert etc.)
There will be issues that need overcoming, there always are. Dialogue invariably sorts these out. Excuses can be made in any walk of life, but equally solutions can be found if the will is there.

Proposals were first drafted in July 2016.

Differently-abled fans needing to use wheelchairs have missed the 2016-17 season, the 2017-18 season, the 2018-19 season and will miss the 2019-20 season.

That's four - yes FOUR - seasons they've not been afforded the ability to watch a football match, over 100 matches.

I wonder how many times any of the seats that would have been lost as a result of the DSA's proposals have been sat in during that time?

If the latest proposal affects means of egress for concerts (I don't know, but that seems to be the excuse for delaying its implementation), its installation would appear to affect the ability to stage future concerts. If so, that would seem to be a far greater loss of revenue than a few seats in the Yale Paddock.
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 18.47:30   #36-0 (permalink)
Due a Testimonial
 
Welsh Kiwi's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)


(info)
 
Racecourse Spot: A red seat
Real Name:
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

I think Ruabon Red has summed that up perfectly.

Am truly ashamed of our football club who I have supported all my life through thick and thin, if the governance of the football club felt it was reasonable to object to a proposal for an amenity that provides inclusivity and a level playing field and accessibility for all of our fans, rather than risk losing a few seats for our non disabled fans.

Are we Manchester United ?

Nothing the club has done in the last 10 years has made me feel as upset as that does.

I can absolutely appreciate the difficulty involved and potential costs in meeting all the requirements, but had the WST tried to find a workable solution from the very outset, rather than oppose the resolution I feel our club would be in a much stronger position today both on and off the pitch.
__________________
Make Wrexham A.F.C. Great Again...
Reply With Quote
Old 13th February 2020, 23.39:27   #37-0 (permalink)
Taking coaching badges
 
Quay Red's Avatar


(info 1 & 2)


(info)
 
Racecourse Spot: MRS
Real Name:
Twitter: @





Default Re: Second disabled platform plan shelved?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Kiwi View Post
I think Ruabon Red has summed that up perfectly.

Am truly ashamed of our football club who I have supported all my life through thick and thin, if the governance of the football club felt it was reasonable to object to a proposal for an amenity that provides inclusivity and a level playing field and accessibility for all of our fans, rather than risk losing a few seats for our non disabled fans.

Are we Manchester United ?

Nothing the club has done in the last 10 years has made me feel as upset as that does.

I can absolutely appreciate the difficulty involved and potential costs in meeting all the requirements, but had the WST tried to find a workable solution from the very outset, rather than oppose the resolution I feel our club would be in a much stronger position today both on and off the pitch.
Superb summation. There are workable solutions if the will is there to commit to them.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools



Quick Forum Links: Wrexham Forum - Live Match Threads - Offtopic Chat - General Footy - Other Sports - Entertainment - New Posts - Live Match Threads
RP Homepage Forums List



Content is user generated and is not moderated before posting.
All content is viewed and used by you at your own risk and RP does not warrant the accuracy or reliability of any of the information.
The views expressed are those of the individual contributors and not necessarily those of RP.
IP addresses of contributors together with dates and times of access are stored.


Complaint? Please use the report post tools or contact RP to bring a post, user or thread to the attention of a site 'admin' or 'mod'.
Our privacy policy can be found here.

Select Version: PC View | Mobile RP | Dark



All times are WMT (Wrexham Mean Time). For non-town viewers the time now is 23.38:04.
Powered by vBulletin® & Wrex the Dragons fiery breath

RedPassion.co.uk : World Famous in Wrexham



SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0 ©2009, Crawlability, Inc.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12