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Old 11th February 2020, 11.42:00   #37-0 (permalink)
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I'll see your Bury, Macc, Oldham and I'll even give you Rushden and Diamonds and Darlington. However, I'll raise you with teams we used to play on a regular basis and who we are now a million miles away from. Burnley, Bournemouth, Millwall, Brentford, Preston, Swansea, Cardiff, Wigan, Luton, Wycombe, Fleetwood, Oxford, Burton, Gillingham, Bristol Rovers, Lincoln, Shrewsbury, Blackpool... The list goes on, I'm sure you get the picture.

Folk have had enough, you and your merry band of ideologists have had your chance and have failed big time, and in the process have forgotten what a professional football club is all about. You have had more than enough time, please, for the love of god, let it go and let someone else have a crack. After all, they can't do much worse.
We now have the worst owners in the clubs history. Fact.

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Old 11th February 2020, 11.43:06   #38-0 (permalink)
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In a controlled manner yes. With clear legal boundaries

But it’s a pipe dream.

We can’t even get a full honest and open dialogue going with the Trust board and they supposedly represent the members

It’s the same old same old chestnut . It will be a very sad day if people start to sit up and take notice if we get relegated
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Would you throw millions in knowing who's in charge of the purse strings?
I would expect an investor to be the new owner. Supporters trust could have a seat on the board as a minority interest, but I don't see anyone putting money into the WST model.
Old 11th February 2020, 11.50:25   #40-0 (permalink)
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Although fan ownership must have its inherent limits, for a club of our size, I still believe absolutely that it has the ability to take us up a division or two. I believe that it's the crew of this veteran bomber that's not fit for purpose, and not the flak-riddled old plane itself.
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Although fan ownership must have its inherent limits, for a club of our size, I still believe absolutely that it has the ability to take us up a division or two. I believe that it's the crew of this veteran bomber that's not fit for purpose, and not the flak-riddled old plane itself.
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Ok so being sorry is one thing but calling him fat thumbs ? Shocking.
Old 11th February 2020, 12.23:04   #44-0 (permalink)
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Its easy to pick up on a small minority of failures to prove a point.

There are two ways of looking at everything

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Fan ownership doesn't work - look at Stockport and York
Fan ownership works - look at Portsmouth and Wimbledon

What differentiates the above - poor executive decision making, financial imprudence, flexibility and dynamism of approach. It doesn't matter the model, whether its fan or private the difference between success or failure of both is executive decision making.

Get the strategy right, get the structure right, get the people right, get the funding model right and execute well and both will work, get it wrong and both can and will fail.
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Its easy to pick up on a small minority of failures to prove a point.

There are two ways of looking at everything

E.g.
Fan ownership doesn't work - look at Stockport and York
Fan ownership works - look at Portsmouth and Wimbledon

What differentiates the above - poor executive decision making, financial imprudence, flexibility and dynamism of approach. It doesn't matter the model, whether its fan or private the difference between success or failure of both is executive decision making.

Get the strategy right, get the structure right, get the people right, get the funding model right and execute well and both will work, get it wrong and both can and will fail.
I think Portsmouth have sold up, the supporters trust felt they couldn't take the club further. Wimbledon have also sold shares of but still retain 77%, obviously neither have sold shares off to any Tom, Dick or Harry.

However, I wouldn't trust those currently in charge to make the right call.
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