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Old 12th February 2020, 15.39:45   #41-0 (permalink)
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Both failed at that level. Time for Ricketts to sack another coach it's never his fault.

Both failed ermm I think you will find Shrewsbury are still at league 1 level and just had hard luck beating Liverpool in a televised fa Cup game..

As for Keates ermmmm oh yes he took his beloved Hometown club Walsall down in one full season after being in league one for a long time, the manager who replaced him said when he took over that he could not believe how poor the squad was.

As for Ricketts he would not drop back down to the 13 yrs permanent non league level we have are at even if the situation arose

So the non stop quotes on this is pointless.
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Both failed ermm I think you will find Shrewsbury are still at league 1 level and just had hard luck beating Liverpool in a televised fa Cup game..

As for Keates ermmmm oh yes he took his beloved Hometown club Walsall down in one full season after being in league one for a long time, the manager who replaced him said when he took over that he could not believe how poor the squad was.

As for Ricketts he would not drop back down to the 13 yrs permanent non league level we have are at even if the situation arose

So the non stop quotes on this is pointless.
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Lost to Liverpool's youth team. Took a team challenging for the play offs to struggling to score playing a boring style of football. Had a bigger budget than Keates due to a previous manager.
Don't get me wrong I expected Ricketts to be challenging for at least the play offs or even have moved on by now to a bigger club. Maybe he will but he could easy be out of a job soon.
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yet another derailed thread.
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Old 13th February 2020, 00.17:29   #44-0 (permalink)
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Why is everyone so bothered, we have the worst management of our own football club in years and we follow ex managers much higher in the leagues that we can only dream of being.
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Does he know the area?
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Lost to Liverpool's youth team. Took a team challenging for the play offs to struggling to score playing a boring style of football. Had a bigger budget than Keates due to a previous manager.
Don't get me wrong I expected Ricketts to be challenging for at least the play offs or even have moved on by now to a bigger club. Maybe he will but he could easy be out of a job soon.
Still miles and miles better than Keates, as he proved here. Keep digging. The desperation to slaughter Ricketts is embarrassing. Focus on the raft of failures, wage thieves and losers at our own club.
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Still miles and miles better than Keates, as he proved here. Keep digging. The desperation to slaughter Ricketts is embarrassing. Focus on the raft of failures, wage thieves and losers at our own club.
Not sure where you get the miles better than Keates from. Ricketts has a greater air of confidence and can talk the talk but he inherited a far better squad than Keates did. We were a shambles when Keates took over and he had the job of offloading and recruiting whilst under the threat of relegation. Ricketts back four were sorted and solid, but yes we looked like we were progressing as an attacking force, but that was always the plan under Keates after making us harder to beat and from all accounts Ricketts got a larger playing budget to work with.

I'm not saying Ricketts won't be more successful long term, but both were rookies and injected some belief and were taking us in the right direction before they moved on.
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Not sure where you get the miles better than Keates from. Ricketts has a greater air of confidence and can talk the talk but he inherited a far better squad than Keates did. We were a shambles when Keates took over and he had the job of offloading and recruiting whilst under the threat of relegation. Ricketts back four were sorted and solid, but yes we looked like we were progressing as an attacking force, but that was always the plan under Keates after making us harder to beat and from all accounts Ricketts got a larger playing budget to work with.

I'm not saying Ricketts won't be more successful long term, but both were rookies and injected some belief and were taking us in the right direction before they moved on.
I got it from my eyes and brain, from watching a Ricketts team here who were on course to get promoted and from watching a Keates team here first time round who were dreadful to watch and were winging it massively and this time round where he's taken us backwards and all these claims of 'making us solid' etc have been proved to be total bollocks
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It was an easy conclusion to come to, similar to someone asking you if its raining outside or not.

Ricketts took over a Keates squad riddled with duff signings and an impotent attack and a weak midfield. The majority of the squad Keates got this season nearly won the league last season, so where on earth do you dream these things up?

Re Keates plan 'making us harder to beat', he's failed on all fronts there hasn't he. Again where are you getting this guff from?

Ricketts did not have the benefit of the build the budget fund that Keates did, so I very much doubt your budget claims are true. Just pure guesswork from you.

The proof is Ricketts had us challenging at the top after one summer of transfers and his team was way ahead of any team Keates has produced here. Fact. It should not need pointing out, its so obvious. Your rose tinted specs are seriously clouding your judgement.
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I got it from my eyes and brain, from watching a Ricketts team here who were on course to get promoted and from watching a Keates team here first time round who were dreadful to watch and were winging it massively and this time round where he's taken us backwards and all these claims of 'making us solid' etc have been proved to be total bollocks
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It was an easy conclusion to come to, similar to someone asking you if its raining outside or not.

Ricketts took over a Keates squad riddled with duff signings and an impotent attack and a weak midfield. The majority of the squad Keates got this season nearly won the league last season, so where on earth do you dream these things up?

Re Keates plan 'making us harder to beat', he's failed on all fronts there hasn't he. Again where are you getting this guff from?

Ricketts did not have the benefit of the build the budget fund that Keates did, so I very much doubt your budget claims are true. Just pure guesswork from you.

The proof is Ricketts had us challenging at the top after one summer of transfers and his team was way ahead of any team Keates has produced here. Fact. It should not need pointing out, its so obvious. Your rose tinted specs are seriously clouding your judgement.

Excellent post Phil but it is DW what did you expect?
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I got it from my eyes and brain, from watching a Ricketts team here who were on course to get promoted and from watching a Keates team here first time round who were dreadful to watch and were winging it massively and this time round where he's taken us backwards and all these claims of 'making us solid' etc have been proved to be total bollocks
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It was an easy conclusion to come to, similar to someone asking you if its raining outside or not.

Ricketts took over a Keates squad riddled with duff signings and an impotent attack and a weak midfield. The majority of the squad Keates got this season nearly won the league last season, so where on earth do you dream these things up?

Re Keates plan 'making us harder to beat', he's failed on all fronts there hasn't he. Again where are you getting this guff from?

Ricketts did not have the benefit of the build the budget fund that Keates did, so I very much doubt your budget claims are true. Just pure guesswork from you.

The proof is Ricketts had us challenging at the top after one summer of transfers and his team was way ahead of any team Keates has produced here. Fact. It should not need pointing out, its so obvious. Your rose tinted specs are seriously clouding your judgement.
Just have to disagree with you, as your assessment as usual was grossly exaggerated. What was Ricketts words early days 'if it ain't brokedont fix it', he knew he was getting a good starting platform so I wouldn't dismiss the changes Keates introduced to get us to that position.
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