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Old 13th February 2020, 11.17:12   #51-0 (permalink)
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Just have to disagree with you, as your assessment as usual was grossly exaggerated. What was Ricketts words early days 'if it ain't brokedont fix it', he knew he was getting a good starting platform so I wouldn't dismiss the changes Keates introduced to get us to that position.
Which part is grossly exaggerated?
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Which part is grossly exaggerated?
Ricketts is miles and miles better than Keates.

Time will tell who ends up being the most successful (although football management is very much down to luck and the breaks you get) but for now they are both rookie managers, trying to turn clubs around who have fallen from where they are expected to be or where they were a season or so back.
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Ricketts is miles and miles better than Keates.

Time will tell who ends up being the most successful (although football management is very much down to luck and the breaks you get) but for now they are both rookie managers, trying to turn clubs around who have fallen from where they are expected to be or where they were a season or so back.
I agree they are both Rookie managers, unfortunately our present rookie manager does not appear to be learning from mistakes and his career in a short space of time has gone backwards, his record alone at Walsall was good enough a reason to not to bring him back.

We should of gone for experience they aren't all like Mills who after all was just a journeyman at non league level and still with 1970s football mentality of a drinking culture.
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Not sure where you get the miles better than Keates from. Ricketts has a greater air of confidence and can talk the talk but he inherited a far better squad than Keates did. We were a shambles when Keates took over and he had the job of offloading and recruiting whilst under the threat of relegation. Ricketts back four were sorted and solid, but yes we looked like we were progressing as an attacking force, but that was always the plan under Keates after making us harder to beat and from all accounts Ricketts got a larger playing budget to work with.

I'm not saying Ricketts won't be more successful long term, but both were rookies and injected some belief and were taking us in the right direction before they moved on.
Keates has inherited a better squad than last time, hardly pulling up trees. Plus many of this squad were in Ricketts.
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Just have to disagree with you, as your assessment as usual was grossly exaggerated. What was Ricketts words early days 'if it ain't brokedont fix it', he knew he was getting a good starting platform so I wouldn't dismiss the changes Keates introduced to get us to that position.
He saw what was broke, the board wouldnt fix it and off he went to Shrewsbury.
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Ricketts is miles and miles better than Keates.

Time will tell who ends up being the most successful (although football management is very much down to luck and the breaks you get) but for now they are both rookie managers, trying to turn clubs around who have fallen from where they are expected to be or where they were a season or so back.
He is miles better and its blindingly obvious, its only your blind loyalty to everything Wrexham Fc that's stopping you giving an honest opinion. Its the same with certain players, you think every player here is great and cannot admit to a Wrexham player being absolute shite. I could understand if you were an 11 year old child... for an adult though . worrying.
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Keates has inherited a better squad than last time, hardly pulling up trees. Plus many of this squad were in Ricketts.
I don't disagree with this, but it still had a losing mindset and needed a big overhaul mid season.

It's the claim Ricketts was proven as far more successful here than Keates that is only opinion and not 'Fact'. Both left us in difficult circumstances but both are football managers and would be slated for lacking ambition if they didn't take their job offers.

Remember the early days of Brian Flynn and Dennis Smith, they were both given time to get it right and now Keates is back he should be given time. If we go down then he should be sacked but if he keeps us up then let's see where some stability will take us.
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He is miles better and its blindingly obvious, its only your blind loyalty to everything Wrexham Fc that's stopping you giving an honest opinion. Its the same with certain players, you think every player here is great and cannot admit to a Wrexham player being absolute shite. I could understand if you were an 11 year old child... for an adult though . worrying.
They are usually in response to you slagging each and every player and when have I said any of our players are great. You dont seem to grasp we have NL players with only a few good are good enough to play higher in the pyramid whereas I appreciate the varied attributes some players bring to a NL squad.
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They are usually in response to you slagging each and every player and when have I said any of our players are great. You dont seem to grasp we have NL players with only a few good are good enough to play higher in the pyramid whereas I appreciate the varied attributes some players bring to a NL squad.
LOL. Never have I slagged 'each and every player'.

Its got nothing to do with whether they are good enough to play higher, that's stupid.
Its if they are good enough for us now and what they contribute to the team against what's expected from the position they play.

Case in point Mr Rutherford, who rarely scores or assists yet you rate him and all you can bang on about is his 'work rate' which speaks volumes.
Only an absolute lunatic would even attempt to defend his woeful stats. Your delusion is quite frightening. Father Christmas isn't real either you know..
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LOL. Never have I slagged 'each and every player'.

Its got nothing to do with whether they are good enough to play higher, that's stupid.
Its if they are good enough for us now and what they contribute to the team against what's expected from the position they play.

Case in point Mr Rutherford, who rarely scores or assists yet you rate him and all you can bang on about is his 'work rate' which speaks volumes.
Only an absolute lunatic would even attempt to defend his woeful stats. Your delusion is quite frightening. Father Christmas isn't real either you know..
Your stats dont tell the full picture, it's what players bring to the squad and the team and Rutherford brings his fair share. He lacks exceptional pace and composure in the box but over the last few years he has been consistently better than a number of other fancied midfielders/wingers . I always maintain if we have players who can keep him on the bench then great but managers not just Keates trust him for a reason.

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