Macron shirts

[Welsh Kiwi]

Originally Posted by krux

I prefer this:

https://www.toffs.com/wrexham-1967-1...football-shirt

A nice and old skool. 1960's vibe.

The thing with design (if you want it to be commercial, is to try to create something that aligns with your brand values but is also popular with the biggest share of your market. That means appealing to as many people as possible. Its all about % percentange sell through v stock purchase.

As mentioned earlier we need a good story, a good feel good factor to attach to all our merchandise, it's not enough just having the club badge.

It seems that crusaders do this with proceeds of every shirt going to nightingale appeal. How about something that raises money for all the families whose grandfathers were lost in the Gresford Colliery disaster. Something thats really meaningful and historically important to our area and that we all care about and that should be kept in the publics imagination, to know the truth of that terrible tragedy.

We need to do something that will make other fans of other clubs look and think, wow, look what Wrexham is doing, why cant we do that ?

I have a friend whose a Motherwell fan and their general merchandise design is great. They do a great fleece track top zip up and zip rain cagoule. We need items that people actually want to wear when their not on a football pitch.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by Welsh Kiwi

I thought this would be the reason for the peel issues our fans have mentioned. I don't want to be overly critical as everyone will be trying to do the right thing and to a budget, but ultimately value for money is at the core of every product thats sits on any shelf around the world and quality is crucial to the customers expectation. Nobody apart from Gerrard Ratner expects poor quality.
And look what happened to him.

The number of complaints are very small compared to the number of shirts sold.
Most of the damage has been caused in washing / drying.
It may be necessary to make consumers more aware of the potential hazards when laundering products with a combination of materials.

[Phils-an-alki]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

The number of complaints are very small compared to the number of shirts sold.
Most of the damage has been caused in washing / drying.
It may be necessary to make consumers more aware of the potential hazards when laundering products with a combination of materials.

How do you know? Were you there when every fan was washing and drying their shirts? No you weren't.
Pure guesswork.

Were you leaked the number of complaints received by the club? Again more guesswork.

[Lets Av A Riot]

Mines fine....

Check the label for instructions.... too many of you guys probably just lob it in the washing machine on the same setting every time.

Shirts ike that will have washing instructions. follow them to ensure ya top lasts longer.. if still issues... as somebody mentuoned above.. matbe a faulty batch of transfers (tops wont be a problem it will be the heat transfer process) , does anybody know who deals with that ? Macron ? or maro just the shirts and not the transfers?

as if a few seconds either way of transfer instructions.. if makes a difference to how well the transfer vinyl is applied to the garment.

[Red Light]

Originally Posted by Lets Av A Riot

Mines fine....

Check the label for instructions.... too many of you guys probably just lob it in the washing machine on the same setting every time.

Shirts ike that will have washing instructions. follow them to ensure ya top lasts longer.. if still issues... as somebody mentuoned above.. matbe a faulty batch of transfers (tops wont be a problem it will be the heat transfer process) , does anybody know who deals with that ? Macron ? or maro just the shirts and not the transfers?

as if a few seconds either way of transfer instructions.. if makes a difference to how well the transfer vinyl is applied to the garment.

I really do think you have hit on the real problem - washing the garment.
However, when I systematically checked the labels on all my sons replica Wrexham shirts I was unable to find a single reference to 'washing instructions and there certainly isn't anything provided with the shirts at the time of purchase.
No doubt there is a right or better way to wash them - many will chuck them in a prolonged hot wash and that's probably not helping - I tend to do a hand wash and have not had any problems whatsoever with the sponsors transfer logo's.

At £40 a shirt perhaps Macron should consider issuing washing advice / instructions - it would be in their own interest and bring back repeat customers instead of turning them away.

[Welsh Kiwi]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

The number of complaints are very small compared to the number of shirts sold.
Most of the damage has been caused in washing / drying.
It may be necessary to make consumers more aware of the potential hazards when laundering products with a combination of materials.

This is a specialist subject. Washing and cleaning of textile products. This process needs to be made as simple for the consumer as possible. Whats the point in creating products if the consumer will easily damage them unintentionally ?

[Welsh Kiwi]

Originally Posted by Red Light

I really do think you have hit on the real problem - washing the garment.
However, when I systematically checked the labels on all my sons replica Wrexham shirts I was unable to find a single reference to 'washing instructions and there certainly isn't anything provided with the shirts at the time of purchase.
No doubt there is a right or better way to wash them - many will chuck them in a prolonged hot wash and that's probably not helping - I tend to do a hand wash and have not had any problems whatsoever with the sponsors transfer logo's.

At £40 a shirt perhaps Macron should consider issuing washing advice / instructions - it would be in their own interest and bring back repeat customers instead of turning them away.

This is a common problem . Sportswear manufactures will try to shift the responsibility onto the consumer and accept no liability if there are any problems. But equally the sportswear manufacturer who is manufacturing the textiles is responsible to develop textiles that are considered easy to clean and care for by the consumer..

Labelling and the clarity of communication in the labelling is obviously a key element. Some people will ignore a care label and then wonder why there is a problem when they don't follow it, equally some manufacturers will try to reduce risk by saying dumb things like dry clean only.

Your absolutely right at £40 Macron should be issuing wash & care advice. If they don't do it its because they are trying to avoid liability and responsibility. Often change occurs when the consumer pressures them to do something about it. If the consumer sits back and complains nothing happens. Social media is the best way to make a supplier/brand manufacturer jump to attention.

[Quay Red]

Originally Posted by Welsh Kiwi

This is a common problem . Sportswear manufactures will try to shift the responsibility onto the consumer and accept no liability if there are any problems. But equally the sportswear manufacturer who is manufacturing the textiles is responsible to develop textiles that are considered easy to clean and care for by the consumer..

Labelling and the clarity of communication in the labelling is obviously a key element. Some people will ignore a care label and then wonder why there is a problem when they don't follow it, equally some manufacturers will try to reduce risk by saying dumb things like dry clean only.

Your absolutely right at £40 Macron should be issuing wash & care advice. If they don't do it its because they are trying to avoid liability and responsibility. Often change occurs when the consumer pressures them to do something about it. If the consumer sits back and complains nothing happens. Social media is the best way to make a supplier/brand manufacturer jump to attention.

Rather than the shirts, the problem appears to be the transfers that crack, discolour and peel.
I would have thought that the club has a responsibility to give some guidance on washing / drying of the composite items as it appears to be the club who organise the application of the stickers!

[Welsh Kiwi]

Originally Posted by Quay Red

Rather than the shirts, the problem appears to be the transfers that crack, discolour and peel.

I would have thought that the club has a responsibility to give some guidance on washing / drying of the composite items as it appears to be the club who organise the application of the stickers!

Whoever is selling the finished product (in this case the club) is responsible for the quality of the finished product retailed to the end consumer (the fan)

The club is responsible to ensure the suppliers they use, to create the products, are meeting the quality standards required by the consumer.

Any transfers, stickers, emblems, crests, badges etc placed onto the shirts should be as durable as the textiles they are placed on to. They should meet the same wash and care requirements as needed for the textiles used in the shirts.

It's pretty simple really.