More serious issues

[harrypothead]

Originally Posted by Haruki

So let me be clear about this, we have a board who have wasted the Danny Ward money, a revolving door of poor managerial decisions, a manager who plays the worst style of football known to man, hundreds if not thousands off the gate, a totally run-down and neglected youth set up and a disinfranchised fan base......and on a thread entitled "more serious issues" you are discussing a cold pie???
I can tell you, I wish to god a cold pie was our greatest problem !!!

Going to the Car ras on a match day, you should be getting the full package, not poor tactics and cold food. If you decided to take the family to the ground one saturday and you were not a regular and you ordered pies for everyone and they were cold, then that just makes a bad afternoon worse. So yes being served cold food does add to our problems. Can you remember the last time you went away and got served cold food??? I dont think it has ever happened to me.

[noisy1]

The quality of food on offer has been poor for years, whose umbrella does this fall under? Is it Commercial or Stadium Manager?
Why are they content to just let it carry on like this?

Says a lot about how the club is being run, nobody can be bothered sorting anything out.

Similarly some of the items on sale in the club shop make you wonder, a toy truck, paper plates chocolates etc.
Just because we have always sold them doesnt mean we should carry on selling them.

How about modernising things?
I'm sure that parents would purchase things like duvet cover and pillow case sets, lamp shades, wrex the dragon onesies.

[WrexSi]

Originally Posted by Red Light

The club has a shortage of stewards - we have had assistance provided by Tranmere Rovers stewards in the Tech End for the Chorley game - not enough volunteers to take on the role.

Stewarding is a set task and has a number of training modules - it is not the same as S.I.A trained security guards - they are the next step up and deal with incidents that are beyond the role of the stewards - for example to respond to occasional disorderly behaviour.

The alternative is to bring in more police which would cost the club far more - that's the way things have gone across many sports in recent years but especially in football and horse racing.

If we didn't have enough trained stewards and security staff at games we would fail to comply with the stadium safety certificate - that could theoretically mean we would have to play with a reduced crowd number, some stands closing or a game being played with no supporters at all (taking it to it's drastic extreme).

I totally get that, as per my original post, shortage of stewards etc

But the club are paying these guys for doing absolutely nothing, at least deploy them where they’re needed instead of standing in the concourse doing nothing. They should be instructed to stand at an exit gate or stairwell etc.

They need to be instructed in pre match meetings that they’re not on duty outside some seedy nightclub today, so lose the attitude, frankly.

[Corner Flag]

Originally Posted by WrexSi

I totally get that, as per my original post, shortage of stewards etc

But the club are paying these guys for doing absolutely nothing, at least deploy them where they’re needed instead of standing in the concourse doing nothing. They should be instructed to stand at an exit gate or stairwell etc.

They need to be instructed in pre match meetings that they’re not on duty outside some seedy nightclub today, so lose the attitude, frankly.

Totally agree most of them look and act like morons . This 8s supposed to be a friendly fans owned club but to be honest I feel that these morons are putting me right off !! By the way the stewards referred to as volunteers are paid to attend so why cant the club recruit more ? could it be another sign of apathy regarding the way our club is run ?
As for the pies , they used to be fine but I have stopped buying them now and dont get me going about the chips , hand it all over to the Turf food people !!!!

[WrexSi]

Originally Posted by Corner Flag

Totally agree most of them look and act like morons . This 8s supposed to be a friendly fans owned club but to be honest I feel that these morons are putting me right off !! By the way the stewards referred to as volunteers are paid to attend so why cant the club recruit more ? could it be another sign of apathy regarding the way our club is run ?
As for the pies , they used to be fine but I have stopped buying them now and dont get me going about the chips , hand it all over to the Turf food people !!!!

Cheers CF

[redone]

as far as i can remember, from the toilets, to the food, has always been shocking, its these areas that they brass dont give a fook about, and its been like this for ever,

[dlrwrexham]

Originally Posted by Corner Flag

One more moan , I dont like those so called security guards staring at you and trying to look hard who on earth employed them and why ?

Agree. The one or two I've had most experience of, don't exactly exude a welcoming vibe. They look as if they're just one wrong word away from a full-on attack of 'roid-rage'!.

[Red Light]

Originally Posted by WrexSi

I totally get that, as per my original post, shortage of stewards etc

But the club are paying these guys for doing absolutely nothing, at least deploy them where they’re needed instead of standing in the concourse doing nothing. They should be instructed to stand at an exit gate or stairwell etc.

They need to be instructed in pre match meetings that they’re not on duty outside some seedy nightclub today, so lose the attitude, frankly.

WrexSi - to put it another way - look at the SIA staff as a cheaper substitute to the police if and when an incident kicks off.

They are trained and qualified to deal with conflict and that's why they are there.

Stewarding will be a separate entity all together - nothing should be left to chance - the allocation of stewards roles in each stand, their individual roles and responsibilities will be documented - they will also have a specific role in an emergency situation, a partial or full stadium evacuation.

Just like the police, the covering of exit gates, keeping vomitories clear and marshalling supporters to and from their seats is not a role for S.I.A staff.
If supporters don't comply with stewards instructions then the next port of call will be to call in the S.I.A staff - in addition I suspect they have a mobile remit as responders to spontaneous incidents.

The arrangements have moved down this road on a national basis to dramatically reduce the number of police required within stadiums to comply with the safety certificates - in reality it is a compromise which will be far less costly to each respective club.

[thedischunter96]

When I went for a drink of tea they had no milk.