Decision on finishing the season

[Wxm boy]

Another reason ppg is unfair as it takes no account of the remaining fixtures.

For example, Barrow might have a really hard run in, yet the team below them might have played all the harder games and had a favourable run in.

The whole point of a league competition is that everyone plays the same teams, the same number of times, unlike a cup where you have a luck of the draw.
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[Foxy]

Originally Posted by Wxm boy

Another reason ppg is unfair as it takes no account of the remaining fixtures.

For example, Barrow might have a really hard run in, yet the team below them might have played all the harder games and had a favourable run in.

The whole point of a league competition is that everyone plays the same teams, the same number of times, unlike a cup where you have a luck of the draw.
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There is no fair way. The solution has to be the least unfair.

[Wxm boy]

Originally Posted by Foxy

There is no fair way. The solution has to be the least unfair.

I think finishing the season, whenever that is possible is the only fair resolution.

If you can't finish a competition, it gets abandoned. That's pretty much how sport normally works. It's not fair but neither is promoting teams who haven't earnt the right to be promoted.
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[bowler]

It's lockdown for maybe 6months which takes us to September and then it maybe extended. There would be no fans in the stadiums because they can't take the chance of CV19 starting up again. Football and sport are in for a rough ride in the coming months.

[krux]

Originally Posted by Wxm boy

Another reason ppg is unfair as it takes no account of the remaining fixtures.

For example, Barrow might have a really hard run in, yet the team below them might have played all the harder games and had a favourable run in.

The whole point of a league competition is that everyone plays the same teams, the same number of times, unlike a cup where you have a luck of the draw.
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Barrow have an easy run in. They play us!
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[bowler]

In the leader it says after today's national League committee meeting it was decided to postpone all National League fixtures indefinitely. And Wrexham have probably played there last game for this season.

[Wirral Red]

From BBC website

The three divisions of England's National League have been suspended indefinitely because of coronavirus.

The competition had been originally postponed until 3 April but that has now been extended following a board meeting on Tuesday.

It comes after all non-league football in steps three to seven was ended immediately on Thursday with no promotion or relegation.

The National League said it was looking at "how best to conclude" the season.

But it is not yet known if the competition, which is made up of the National League - English football's fifth tier - National League North and National League South, will also be cancelled with all results expunged.

"The National League is currently obtaining specialist legal advice, is consulting regularly with the Football Association and other stakeholders, and is committed to involving its member clubs in a pending decision on how best to conclude the 2019-20 season," a statement said.

[Sandgrounder]

Originally Posted by Foxy

There is no fair way. The solution has to be the least unfair.

Completely agree.

There is nothing fair about what is happening. That shouldn't mean we should jump straight to the most unfair option which is to pretend the whole season didn't happen.

Originally Posted by Wxm boy

Another reason ppg is unfair as it takes no account of the remaining fixtures.

For example, Barrow might have a really hard run in, yet the team below them might have played all the harder games and had a favourable run in.

This argument is cropping up a lot now from opponents of using PPG, but I really don't see where its strength lies.

Everything about football is fundamentally unfair and unpredictable. Team A beats team B which beats team C. What happens when teams A and C play? Quite often, C will beat A despite the apparent form. A team at the top of the league can play a team at the bottom but loses on the day because a man is sent off in minute 1; that team at the bottom then loses to a relegation rival. These things happen all the time: key man is suspended, rivals have new player, absolute weapon as the ref etc etc etc.

Bottom line, there's no such thing as an easier run until that run has happened and the points are in the bag. We all accept this sort of unfairness as part and parcel of the game, and hope that it evens out over a season (when accepting deep down that it probably doesn't).

So, when 80% of the games have been played, I would say that the current table and PPG are a much better guide to who might get promoted than banging on about who has an easier run and who might do this vs who might do that.

[Wxm boy]

Originally Posted by Sandgrounder

Completely agree.

There is nothing fair about what is happening. That shouldn't mean we should jump straight to the most unfair option which is to pretend the whole season didn't happen.




This argument is cropping up a lot now from opponents of using PPG, but I really don't see where its strength lies.

Everything about football is fundamentally unfair and unpredictable. Team A beats team B which beats team C. What happens when teams A and C play? Quite often, C will beat A despite the apparent form. A team at the top of the league can play a team at the bottom but loses on the day because a man is sent off in minute 1; that team at the bottom then loses to a relegation rival. These things happen all the time: key man is suspended, rivals have new player, absolute weapon as the ref etc etc etc.

Bottom line, there's no such thing as an easier run until that run has happened and the points are in the bag. We all accept this sort of unfairness as part and parcel of the game, and hope that it evens out over a season (when accepting deep down that it probably doesn't).

So, when 80% of the games have been played, I would say that the current table and PPG are a much better guide to who might get promoted than banging on about who has an easier run and who might do this vs who might do that.

Bottom line is they are both inaccurate and not within the rules of the competition.

You can't change the rules halfway through a competition. You complete it or you abandon it. They are the only 2 options that are within the rules.
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