WST statement on loans, why not made public, and mystery tweet update

[Rob Edwards]

Originally Posted by marinman

I wish we had communication like that. Fat chance!

Even in the current pandemic,feeling of some spin in the statement.

[Haruki]

Does one of those with access to the WST Tweets account have a day job working for the UK Civil Service?

[TopCornerFergie]

Originally Posted by Haruki

Does one of those with access to the WST Tweets account have a day job working for the UK Civil Service?

Would explain what John Mills has been up to since leaving his post

[eosceiriog]

Originally Posted by marinman

I wish we had communication like that. Fat chance!

It really shows how bad ours is.

Take just one phrase from ours.

"We have no visibility on when we will be able to return to the Racecourse to generate income".

What is wrong with simply "We don't know when etc."

Probably afraid of admitting what most already know they don't actually know very much at all.

[eosceiriog]

Originally Posted by Cartman

Once again, the board and many fans have failed to grasp the real issues here.

Other than the more pressing concern as to why the board would need to borrow the money in the first place, I have no real issue with the loans themselves. I also have no real issue with the details being withheld from supporters.

But what is categorically unacceptable is how the board can insist they have everything under control and claim they don't need outside investment, and will never seek outside investment without a 'mandate', when in reality they have already done so behind everyone's backs to cover their own shortcomings.

This is made ten times worse by their abject failure to act on a direct mandate that was passed god knows how long ago now, and their pursuit of vanity projects that apparently don't require a 'mandate'.

This board will continue to pursue whatever action they want and do whatever it takes to retain power, regardless of how incompetent and unpopular the end results are. They will only bring up the 'mandate' barrier when there are calls to do something they do not approve of, particularly as they know the resolution voting system is heavily weighted in their favour. The reason they know that? They created the biased system in the first place.

In short, the club board, WST chairman, and WST Independent Secretary need to go immediately. People are scared of the unknown aspect of change. But I would rather dive head first into the unknown than continue to be eaten away from the inside and die a slow, painful death.

Spot on.

Sadly there is BA to be done until they decide otherwise. I believe the probability of any surrender of power, particularly by SH or his puppet PJ is extremely unlikely. Similarly LJ on the scene again is not going to end well.

A real dilemma. Helping the club out financially simply enables them to reinforce their positions. Not helping the club out means going bust but a bit faster than they way we going now.

Would killing off the club and re-starting be a better bet? It would certainly by-pass all the constitutional niceties, which could take years to properly resolve anyway, required to make real change.

I don't know the answer but I do know there is an increasing probability we are going to find out unless the club board, WST chairman, and WST Independent Secretary do the decent thing.

If they have any integrity, decency or sense of shame not only should they resign but also offer a handover to the complete satisfaction of those taking over from them.

[Foxy]

Originally Posted by eosceiriog

Spot on.

Sadly there is BA to be done until they decide otherwise. I believe the probability of any surrender of power, particularly by SH or his puppet PJ is extremely unlikely. Similarly LJ on the scene again is not going to end well.

A real dilemma. Helping the club out financially simply enables them to reinforce their positions. Not helping the club out means going bust but a bit faster than they way we going now.

Would killing off the club and re-starting be a better bet? It would certainly by-pass all the constitutional niceties, which could take years to properly resolve anyway, required to make real change.

I don't know the answer but I do know there is an increasing probability we are going to find out unless the club board, WST chairman, and WST Independent Secretary do the decent thing.

If they have any integrity, decency or sense of shame not only should they resign but also offer a handover to the complete satisfaction of those taking over from them.

I am starting to think that way too. Leave them to it and we will have a long inexorable decline into some kind of Cymru League. If the current virus means we go bust we can reform under new ownership and governance and start to move forward again.

[LlayDragon]

Originally Posted by eosceiriog

Spot on.

Sadly there is BA to be done until they decide otherwise. I believe the probability of any surrender of power, particularly by SH or his puppet PJ is extremely unlikely. Similarly LJ on the scene again is not going to end well.

A real dilemma. Helping the club out financially simply enables them to reinforce their positions. Not helping the club out means going bust but a bit faster than they way we going now.

Would killing off the club and re-starting be a better bet? It would certainly by-pass all the constitutional niceties, which could take years to properly resolve anyway, required to make real change.

I don't know the answer but I do know there is an increasing probability we are going to find out unless the club board, WST chairman, and WST Independent Secretary do the decent thing.

If they have any integrity, decency or sense of shame not only should they resign but also offer a handover to the complete satisfaction of those taking over from them.

It is a dilemma, however I think moving ever closer to financial ruin as fans stay away is the only thing the board will understand.

[Foxy]

Originally Posted by LlayDragon

It is a dilemma, however I think moving ever closer to financial ruin as fans stay away is the only thing the board will understand.

Or if the fans are kept away by this bug mularkey ?

Incredible to think that Spincer Harus , Jones the Obnoxious and Jones the Bus (together with his half a coach load of nodding dogs ) represent a bigger threat than the worst pandemic since the Black Death.

[Inside Left]

Originally Posted by eosceiriog

It really shows how bad ours is.

Take just one phrase from ours.

"We have no visibility on when we will be able to return to the Racecourse to generate income".

What is wrong with simply "We don't know when etc."

Probably afraid of admitting what most already know they don't actually know very much at all.

The phrase is business course speak.