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Old 14th May 2020, 14.10:12   #41-0 (permalink)
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"Owned by Wrexham Supporters"

Didn't think there was anyone left who actually believed this WST propaganda. Wakey wakey

The WST or to be more precise, Pete coaches and his band of cronies have taken us backwards and we're becoming more and more like Chester as each week and scandal passes.

WST is slowly turning us into Chester. Give yourselves a pat on the back chaps.
Cannot understand why being like Chester is wrong?. I believe that both of our clubs are going to be stronger than many at our levels at the end of all of this.
As I have stated to a few of our fans. '' getting rid of the board at this time would be the worst thing we could do'' The infighting at your club is just as it is at ours.
You really need to go into 'survival mode' in the current climate Coronavirus and the implications of it is the biggest danger to every club outside of the Prem at the moment. The way things are in the EFL right now you are probably better off where you are. Truthfully, in- fighting is not helping you any more than it is us at Chester
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Old 14th May 2020, 16.44:56   #42-0 (permalink)
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Nope you said we were owners. We are not. Glad you've come round though.
Used to think fan ownership was the way but now I don't think it can work. I may be wrong but our model is utterly flawed in its current form. Not enough fans buy into it and not enough vote on resolutions and that won't change. Your average everyday fans just wants to watch games.

Fans who think that all private owners are crooks need to look at nearly every other league club and have a rethink.

The evidence is that private ownership is by far the most successful way. 50/50 might work too. I'm open to anything bar carrying on as we are.
Iím thinking that If the WST maintain full control of WST assets Ltd then that safeguards the racecourse lease and the WST can bill the club on a cost recovery / zero profit basis.
We could then look for some duality in the ownership of Wrexham FC with the Trust owning 50% and one or a collection of private partners owning the other 50%. This gives us some commercial thinking, new ideas and two parties to check each otherís impulses as well as challenge each otherís thinking. The WST maintaining ownership of 50% provides a reasonable security blanket over the future of the club.
I see this solution as giving us the best of both worlds.
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Nope you said we were owners. We are not. Glad you've come round though.
Used to think fan ownership was the way but now I don't think it can work. I may be wrong but our model is utterly flawed in its current form. Not enough fans buy into it and not enough vote on resolutions and that won't change. Your average everyday fans just wants to watch games.

Fans who think that all private owners are crooks need to look at nearly every other league club and have a rethink.

The evidence is that private ownership is by far the most successful way. 50/50 might work too. I'm open to anything bar carrying on as we are.
Some meaningful debate at last.

AFC Wimbledon and Exeter City both supporter owned. Got promoted back to the League with a fan base smaller than ours. Both well run by an excellent Chief Executive.

There are more crooks out there than you think and as Henry 8 points out Chester nearly got another one. You have to factor in owners who use company money to fund a club and then go down the pan when the company flounders. A number of owners put money in against the land value of the stadium so they are to be avoided as well ! Genuine fans with a enough money to buy and fund a football club are thin on the ground imo.

I still think most of your issues are about how well run we are given your reply. That can be changed without selling to someone who does not care about the club as much as you do. A decent CEO would be a great start.
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Going back to the title of the thread - there is swab data from England that indicates one in four hundred people is infected.

Stats is more complex, but it gives an idea of how perceptions could be... would you go to a game with a crowd of 4,000 with those odds?

Further, if there were people infected such crowds could be a quick transmission method.
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Going back to the title of the thread - there is swab data from England that indicates one in four hundred people is infected.

Stats is more complex, but it gives an idea of how perceptions could be... would you go to a game with a crowd of 4,000 with those odds?

Further, if there were people infected such crowds could be a quick transmission method.
Yes definitely., as Im neither old or vulnerable

At some point, we’re going to have to leave choices to individuals rather than this blanket ban on everything
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Iím thinking that If the WST maintain full control of WST assets Ltd then that safeguards the racecourse lease and the WST can bill the club on a cost recovery / zero profit basis.
We could then look for some duality in the ownership of Wrexham FC with the Trust owning 50% and one or a collection of private partners owning the other 50%. This gives us some commercial thinking, new ideas and two parties to check each otherís impulses as well as challenge each otherís thinking. The WST maintaining ownership of 50% provides a reasonable security blanket over the future of the club.
I see this solution as giving us the best of both worlds.
Nice to see more good points and rational debate. I could live with 51/49 if the 49 was divided 3 or 4 ways rather than in the hands of one egotist.
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Going back to the title of the thread - there is swab data from England that indicates one in four hundred people is infected.

Stats is more complex, but it gives an idea of how perceptions could be... would you go to a game with a crowd of 4,000 with those odds?

Further, if there were people infected such crowds could be a quick transmission method.
I did try that before but it did not go down very well. Covid 19 will have a huge impact on football and very few on here appear to have noticed yet. Do not think there is any chance of playing in front of 4,000 till Jan 21 or much later, so lots of clubs are in serious trouble no matter who owns them.

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Iím thinking that If the WST maintain full control of WST assets Ltd then that safeguards the racecourse lease and the WST can bill the club on a cost recovery / zero profit basis.
We could then look for some duality in the ownership of Wrexham FC with the Trust owning 50% and one or a collection of private partners owning the other 50%. This gives us some commercial thinking, new ideas and two parties to check each otherís impulses as well as challenge each otherís thinking. The WST maintaining ownership of 50% provides a reasonable security blanket over the future of the club.
I see this solution as giving us the best of both worlds.
Very good points. Donít think anyone is against these.
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I did try that before but it did not go down very well. Covid 19 will have a huge impact on football and very few on here appear to have noticed yet. Do not think there is any chance of playing in front of 4,000 till Jan 21 or much later, so lots of clubs are in serious trouble no matter who owns them.
The football landscape might change quite a lot before we kick our next ball in anger. Hopefully for the better and not worse in our case.
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Yes definitely., as Im neither old or vulnerable

At some point, weíre going to have to leave choices to individuals rather than this blanket ban on everything
All ages are capable of receiving the virus in its forms. Very much a game of Russian roulette depending on ones genetic form. Maybe odds better if younger but all are vulnerable.
Stay safe and good luck all
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