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Old 19th May 2020, 14.37:55   #41-0 (permalink)
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People generally don't think Spencer is the only person who can do this. They're unwilling to support things until they know who the proposed new people will be. Basic human psychology - better the devil you know.
It's a sound principle in theory

However, Spencer Harris remaining at the club will lead to many of our supporters not returning to the club. It's as simple as that with logic of the open letter. Better the devil you know doesn't apply when so many have expressed that they won't be returning

Is it better to have a divided fanbase, toxic racecourse, huge losses in income from alienated supporters and an uncertain/dangerous future for the club?
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Old 19th May 2020, 15.00:40   #42-0 (permalink)
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Hardly - they are questions that need answering. Appreciate that will happen with the AGM etc but that's where most floaters will be. They need someone positive to latch onto at the same time.
you are part of the problem at this club, someone who supports failure,good look with that
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Old 19th May 2020, 15.08:52   #43-0 (permalink)
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you are part of the problem at this club, someone who supports failure,good look with that
How did you get that from what Cardiff Red said???

He's merely pointing out that the movement would have more support, if there was someone waiting in the wings to take over.
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Old 19th May 2020, 15.46:38   #44-0 (permalink)
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Can anyone seriously see Harris and co leaving . I don’t think they will it’s one huge ego trip which is destroying the club and split the fan base
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you are part of the problem at this club, someone who supports failure,good look with that
I think this is the wrong conclusion.

CardiffRed is trying to explain why many will not support ejecting Spencer Harris and the others unless suitable replacements and an alternative set of objectives are given.

Most want change. However, bringing it about safely, efficiently and effectively is quite a tricky act to master.
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Can anyone seriously see Harris and co leaving . I don’t think they will it’s one huge ego trip which is destroying the club and split the fan base
I think that the threat of losing a vote of 'No Confidence' would be the best way to convince them their time is up.
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[QUOTE=Prodigal Dragon;2359420]I think that the threat of losing a vote of 'No Confidence' would be the best way to convince them their time is up.[/QUOTED
Does a WST member have to propose a Vote of no confidence or is the process more convoluted then that ?
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People generally don't think Spencer is the only person who can do this. They're unwilling to support things until they know who the proposed new people will be. Basic human psychology - better the devil you know.
Things need to change at the club, including a few of the personalities at the top who should recognise they have had their go, but to be fair this comment is spot on.
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I think that the threat of losing a vote of 'No Confidence' would be the best way to convince them their time is up.[/QUOTED
Does a WST member have to propose a Vote of no confidence or is the process more convoluted then that ?
Cannot see why any member could not raise it for the AGM, but it would probably fail to reach the 75% margin required.
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Old 19th May 2020, 17.39:48   #50-0 (permalink)
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It's a sound principle in theory

However, Spencer Harris remaining at the club will lead to many of our supporters not returning to the club. It's as simple as that with logic of the open letter. Better the devil you know doesn't apply when so many have expressed that they won't be returning

Is it better to have a divided fanbase, toxic racecourse, huge losses in income from alienated supporters and an uncertain/dangerous future for the club?
I'm not advocating the current board stay any longer than i take to eat my tea, but with the staff furloughed who would run the club once they depart?

Are there any provisions in the WST make up to allow somebody to step to run club as interim club board or would the club secretary take over fro an interim period to allow for elections

I agree with cardiffred - better the devil you know than the devil you don't, even better the devil you know than a space vacuum.
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