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Old 18th May 2020, 11.40:36   #19-0 (permalink)
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I'd love for this to happen.
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Logistically it makes an awful lot of sense. But you're right the 2 governing bodies are issue.

For continuity across the board if it was to go ahead I would expect League 1 and League 2 to merge.

And then maybe even rejig the whole non league pyramid so everything is regionalised rather than only the national league that is not.

It would certainly help from a finicial point of view.
I guess the downside then is there only being 1 team from each regional league going up from non-league, unless the football league elected to send 4 teams down.
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No way would teams near the top of league 1 accept regional football and only 1 promotion spot, Peterborough, Ipswich and a half dozen others are threatening legal action even now if they don't get their chance to finish the season with promotion through the playoffs their big chance.
League 2 and the National league makes so much more sense then regional football would exist at 2 levels with the conference north and south feeding the new divisions
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It will probably never happen, but post covid19 it would make financial sense.

https://fanbanter.co.uk/radical-plan...tional-league/
It is a 'fans banter site' it quotes according to sources It does not reference who or where the said 'sources' are.
I agree that something should be done but I doubt that the EFL clubs will want to water the league down by admitting another 24 clubs into the league. The EFL had to be bribed with financial sweeteners just to allow an extra club up from the Conference via playoffs a few years back.
Another consideration would be the central payments. There would be 24 new clubs to give money to plus 2 extra parachute payments. I believe clubs in L2 get around 500k a season so that would be;

500k x 24 teams = £12m = parachute payments =£13m per season. There is talk of cutting the central payments due to the Covid 19 situation so where would the extra £13m per year season?
I really doubt the clubs already playing at L2 level would fancy spreading their money out between 48 clubs instead of 24.
Much more likely that Leagues 1 and 2 will merge then split into North and South. Even then the League one clubs will be up in arms because they get more than the League 2 clubs so how would they address this?.
It is more likely that the National league will be regionalised North and South because there is no central payments to worry about and thus less falling out over it.
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I guess the downside then is there only being 1 team from each regional league going up from non-league, unless the football league elected to send 4 teams down.
Surely IF the EFL made a League 2 N/S then it would be the Champions up and one other from each section via playoffs? This would apply at a Split National league N/S ie; Champs go up plus one play off?
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Northern Clubs

Wrexham, Chesterfield, AFC Fylde, Chorley, Barrow, Harrogate, FC Halifax, Stockport, Hartlepool,
Notts County. Solihull,

Southern Clubs
Dover, Maidenhead, Dag & Red, Aldershot, Eastleigh, Torquay, Sutton. Bromley,
Barnet, Woking, Boreham Wood, Yeovil, Ebbsfleet.

We could save a bit of money there.

League 2

Crewe, Bradford City, Salford, Grimsby, Carlisle, Oldham, Macclesfield, Morecambe,

Northampton, Port Vale, Walsall, Mansfield, Scunthorpe,

Swindon, Plymouth, Exeter, Colchester, Cheltenham, Forrest Green. Crawley, Newport, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage.

I think some of the might be borderline North or South.
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Surely IF the EFL made a League 2 N/S then it would be the Champions up and one other from each section via playoffs? This would apply at a Split National league N/S ie; Champs go up plus one play off?
The point I am making is that the EFL would be losing 4 teams each year rather than the current 2. Keep up.
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Northern Clubs

Wrexham, Chesterfield, AFC Fylde, Chorley, Barrow, Harrogate, FC Halifax, Stockport, Hartlepool,
Notts County. Solihull,

Southern Clubs
Dover, Maidenhead, Dag & Red, Aldershot, Eastleigh, Torquay, Sutton. Bromley,
Barnet, Woking, Boreham Wood, Yeovil, Ebbsfleet.

We could save a bit of money there.

League 2

Crewe, Bradford City, Salford, Grimsby, Carlisle, Oldham, Macclesfield, Morecambe,

Northampton, Port Vale, Walsall, Mansfield, Ssilly billyhorpe,

Swindon, Plymouth, Exeter, Colchester, Cheltenham, Forrest Green. Crawley, Newport, Cambridge, Orient, Stevenage.

I think some of the might be borderline North or South.
I could see it changing to how you've put it especially with the national league predicted to start in January. Half the teams for half the season, only one champion
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The point I am making is that the EFL would be losing 4 teams each year rather than the current 2. Keep up.
They would be gaining 24 non league clubs. Under a new setup provision would have to be made to account for this. If you consider each League 1 (N/S) would be it's own entity (separate from eachother) then they would in theory still only losing 2 teams each division each year.
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